Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:10:39 +1030 From: Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian@hyperreal.org> Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [press@apache.org: PRESS RELEASE: ASF Reaches Agreement with Sun to Allow Open Source Java Implementations] Message-ID: <20020328171038.A23486@misty.eyesbeyond.com> In-Reply-To: <20020327221634.M1335-100000@yez.hyperreal.org>; from brian@hyperreal.org on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:22:19PM -0800 References: <20020328002610.GA2023@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20020327221634.M1335-100000@yez.hyperreal.org>
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:22:19PM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Bill Huey wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:46:57AM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > > > Yep, there are lots of pessimistic scenarios in this. The question is > > > whether anyone will care if/when high quality open source JVMs start to > > > appear. > > > > It's pretty difficult to do so because of the size of shear size of the > > JVM and because it's a moving target. > > It'd be tough to start one from scratch; I'd wager it's about the same > amount of code complexity as the GNU C toolchain today. What's more > likely is someone open sourcing an existing JVM, and putting their > existing dev resources (or enough dev resources) on it. Or throwing > their weight behind Kaffe or something like that, but more likely > releasing a new one. My favourite here would be ORP. Its done by Intel, so there is enough weight behind it (albeit x86 centric weight) and the license is essentially BSD (or Apache if you like :) style. IMO the biggest lack at the moment isn't in the JVM world (there are quite a number that come to mind) its in creating all the run time classes which actually get you "Java". GNU Classpath is pretty much the only attempt I'm aware of to remedy it and their status still indicates that they are _aiming_ to be compatible with 1.1 (i.e. they're not yet at 1.1 compatibility with 1.4 out already). -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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