From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 22:12:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFEBB2FF for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x234.google.com (mail-pa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 811321BBE for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id rd3so1621291pab.25 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:12:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OTw090Fm/o2Mmv6fu3NR8bkOlsEoTXVuFXTgQikG4Z4=; b=ZuEJx2uHAjiboMn6SeALM6bQ0PyHZ3COUfNgqX+/7RBfonIe+KBOaVG5UGVj5naqtx ILlPuRnKha3FY0OtBY6rZmgc7AtvuQkcCzUtUSsf+XcZ/qXzRu1B+pe/qRF/Rx2LCiuH z+7kKr88bX8R8mSPEIxbF7dviDEGfND3oTJHTjPE9pWx8t2papESHZF2RgGkMDjY8pQ+ wLqQRdCXcXJQnMWSURGIqJTxUrPKGQq8qrDyrzoXL6truIprzrAXBd3B3rRYuGSmUplb lYzEfmBeNqjrWIzsYvTU5C6QI8fRDjxQZHzx3NrFlM+APBAY+fbZQJCQRSBD1tPkAvVB U35w== X-Received: by 10.68.197.8 with SMTP id iq8mr7626419pbc.124.1396995168153; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.192.166.0] (stargate.chelsio.com. [67.207.112.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nc1sm6858746pbc.32.2014.04.08.15.12.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Navdeep Parhar Message-ID: <5344745C.90509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:12:44 -0700 From: Navdeep Parhar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Subject: Re: Time for turning off gdb by default? Or worse... References: <20140408212435.GA75404@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <57ECB078-3D7A-4BE8-AA29-1ED7BB347DBD@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Steve Kargl , freebsd-arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:12:48 -0000 On 04/08/14 15:05, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> On Apr 8, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > [..] > >>> 2) What effect does this have on kgdb? Note, /sys/conf/NOTES contains >> >> Unfortunately, kgdb isn't available as a port, so that does matter. It is one >> thing arguing against this change. > > > This is a big deal, unfortunately. kgdb would be a big loss. > +1. kgdb shouldn't just disappear without an alternate in place. Navdeep