From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:24:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A71A16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDB013C43E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so636188ugh for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:24:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GVWJ7X65fLwKXMGrOzpNANwW1rTZJCZNZe3V5rNjsCoCnA5p5ggIa/d7EmAwfRDDcggF39YB+5lYOPkimbXFsoqMao15ESnj8m5HsKMe76jRQkzBKCW7A1MBaY7iTGlU+s/HCw05tCFUSwW83EB6lgDkF2gaXj64B4CzAB3GDNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lM1koP89FEd0Q9Zafb2bKI8dqZvEzuADAHwCmBcVdr1XVjzo8wNVd6VqsBUCTv6sfkwb3bWv2hkqpO8JukNk3XfyopdauQDnFPDtxIMlq6dmoQ/oRQOwLc9BUritTKTGu78liE1walo5S5+7tjHAcvXi5d+yAhZS/YSqAbr6H1g= Received: by 10.115.33.1 with SMTP id l1mr2953413waj.1173887707983; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.56.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260703140855o6b0529f6oad4e351d2ab2205a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:55:07 +0000 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703140853p271363c7m27e8089a3a18cee3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45F6E0AB.1080105@mac.com> <20070314124606.26320.qmail@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8a0028260703140853p271363c7m27e8089a3a18cee3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Dell is asking what free OS to preinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:24:16 -0000 On 14/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 3/14/07, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > Wrong time wrong place. Not voting for Ubuntu/Debian is the same as > > voting against it. In this respect it can hurt us very much. Why throw > > away your vote when you could vote for a group with the same > > philosophical and political views as us? You need to realize that the > > survey statistician is going to throw out the votes for FreeBSD. > > Do you think it's the right time and place (the > freebsd-advocacy mailing list) to advise people > to vote for Ubuntu instead of FreeBSD? :) I'm not Nikolas, but let me say why *I* think it's the right place: If we all vote for Ubuntu, then we increase our chances of getting hardware that isn't proprietary in the sense of "only having drivers for MSWin". Also, we avoid the Microsoft tax and can put FreeBSD on it when we get it. I know that I, for instance, would probably find fault with SOMETHING the Dell installers installed whether they chose my favourite OS/distro or not. Jeff -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath? A: Impossible to tell, since we're still in the Beforemath. http://latedeveloper.org.uk