From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 11:55:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C8716A4CE; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (papagena.rockefeller.edu [129.85.41.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E159243D2F; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:55:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsidd@papagena.rockefeller.edu) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) i05Jq1Vj032620; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:52:01 -0500 Received: (from rsidd@localhost) by papagena.rockefeller.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i05Jq0Pj032618; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:52:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:52:00 -0500 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Juli Mallett Message-ID: <20040105195200.GA32581@online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.20-20.9smp i686 cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Personal patches X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:55:16 -0000 Juli Mallett wrote: > There are some of Rush's statements which do offend me in a > measurable way, but that's not the point. The point is, if you're > one of the people who takes comfort in seeing these things (I can > only imagine that they're *not* actually intended to be funny, even > if they *are* light-hearted in Rush's way [I've listened to him a > lot over time, and I think I at least vaguely understand the slant > of his wit, as it were],) then you're probably happy to see them > come on your screen now and then, amidst the likes of the below* > (since you clearly have offensive fortunes shown to you on login,) > and if you're not a big fan, take comfort in the converse. The point is, Rush Limbaugh means nothing to the vast majority of people in the world (I said that in my mail but you didn't quote it or respond to it). I wouldn't object to a witty but bigoted quote among the offensive fortunes by, say, Chesterton or Churchill, but including people like Limbaugh just mystifies non-US people and gives a bad impression, in my opinion (just as you'd be mystified if SuSE Linux chose to include some unfunny, unperceptive, bigoted quotes by a German you'd never heard of, whose cultural context you didn't understand, and told you "if you're offended don't read it"). Perhaps you disagree. My objection is not to reading Limbaugh when I type fortune -o (when I do that I'm prepared to be offended) -- it's to the aesthetic idea of putting Limbaugh into a free operating system which is available and respected internationally. Rahul