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Date:      Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:13:22 -0500
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@freebsd.org>
To:        Gergely CZUCZY <phoemix@harmless.hu>
Cc:        freebsd-geom@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: volume management
Message-ID:  <461A5812.1080205@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070409143818.GA86722@harmless.hu>
References:  <20070408140215.GA54201@harmless.hu> <86k5wmu420.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070408181916.GA59715@harmless.hu> <86bqhyu225.fsf@dwp.des.no> <461A4D93.3010200@freebsd.org> <20070409143818.GA86722@harmless.hu>

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On 04/09/07 09:38, Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:28:35AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
>> On 04/08/07 13:57, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>>> Gergely CZUCZY <phoemix@harmless.hu> writes:
>>>> yeap, i know about ZFS, as i assume, it will need around 1.5-2 years
>>> >from now, when 7.0-RELEASE will be ready.
>>> No, it's expected this fall.
>>>> and i'm looking for a solution for a production environment within
>>>> a year.
>>> There is no other solution.
>> How about gconcat?  You could create a mirror, then gconcat another mirror, etc, extending the GEOM. 
>>  Then run growfs on that extended volume.  Wouldn't that work?
> why gmirror? gconcat somehow could be used for this,
> but
> 1) i see no attach operation for gconcat to add
> providers on the fly.
> 2) this would require to always create subpartitions/bsdlabels
> on the disk, and add a bit more on need.
> 
> like the following example:
>  - there are 4 filesystems by default: fs1,fs2,fs3,fs4
>  - given da0s1g the "reminder" of the disks, that will give
>  the space needed for the services. we allocate  4 labels for
>  the services: da0s1ga, da0s2gd, da0s2ge, da0s2gf
>  - we concat the four bsdlabels, to be able to later on enlarge them.
> 
> now increasing the size would look like ( _IF_ gconcat would support it):
>  - creating a new bsdlabel, that would serve as the incrementum, like
>  we add da0s2gg
>  NOTE: we reach "h" we cannot add more, bsdlables are limited. we would
>  have to recursively bsdlabel all the last bsdlabels to have te ability
>  to chop another piece that could be added later on.
>  - attaching the new partition to the already existing concat
>  - growing the filesystem
> 
> all of this looks like a PITA to me. like we would need
> a spoon, and all we have is a hammer, so we start eating our
> soup with the hammer...
> 
> i have the definite feeling that gconcat serves a whole different
> propose.


Maybe gvirstor is what you want?

http://wiki.freebsd.org/gvirstor

Eric






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