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Date:      Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:30:35 -0600
From:      Eric Schuele <e.schuele@computer.org>
To:        Lonnie Cumberland <lonnie@outstep.com>
Cc:        Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <4550B4AB.8040606@computer.org>
In-Reply-To: <454F210C.9000602@outstep.com>
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On 11/06/2006 05:48, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to me 
> that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but 
> unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.
> 
> So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD and the CM micro-kernel, 
> combined them, made some improvements and added some additional code and 
> then used it all as the MAC OS X core (without the GUI of course)?

A little bit of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU

I'll let others comment on its correctness.

> 
> With this being said, then does anyone have any experience with the 
> stability and performance?
> 
> My guess is that if it is really based upon FreeBSD then the performance 
> should be pretty good from my readings about FreeBSD compared to other 
> operating systems.
> 
> Thanks again to everyone,
> Cheers,
> Lonnie
> 
> Garrett Cooper wrote:
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>> Lorin Lund wrote:
>>  
>>> Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Greetings All,
>>>>
>>>> Being a long time Linux user and now looking into moving over to
>>>> FreeBSD, I decided to so some research on the web to try and get a
>>>> better idea as to the strengths and weaknesses as compared to other
>>>> operating systems like Linux (Fedora, Gentoo, etc..), OpenBSD, NetBSD,
>>>> and Opensolaris.
>>>>
>>>> From what I have found, FreeBSD seems to be at the very top in almost
>>>> every way.
>>>>
>>>> In my Internet travels, I came across a site that has this MAC OS X (
>>>> which I guess is called Darwin?) at:
>>>>
>>>> http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html
>>>>
>>>> and have noticed that they seem to have built the MAC OS X from a core
>>>> of FreeBSD 5.x.
>>>> Do I read this correctly?
>>>> Also, what are the differences between MAC OS X and Darwin?
>>>>       
>>> I'm pretty sure that Darwin does not include the MAC gui.  I believe
>>> that the guis
>>> used on Darwin are basically the same as found on *BSD and Linux - KDE,
>>> Gnome, ...
>>>     
>>
>> Darwin is the core to the OS; it doesn't contain a GUI, unless installed
>> from ports. Quartz is the "GUI platform" for OSX.
>> - -Garrett
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Regards,
Eric



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