From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Dec 17 10:30:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B551E30B2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 10:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic308-54.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic308-54.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.68.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47cZDH4St3z48kg for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 10:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: r_x3DZkVM1nX4xzAvYBYifsYVNKRD8fCSGk9ro2Bc56Yu5sih5yxM37oTFywT2D vRk5HZWLCz6LGp2kpQi9ATDxt3eYelKPzxgrx7Te81IDPuHFJXRgusIIf1TfZv3dULrsKiIa66T1 7asFHDPQQEwQfN.tHrDZGHWKGPYwiIBt1wYmKL1Uee_YFqGWdUljD5lNjVF_zAbQHDAcq5Jw_jF5 x4tNd6hoG9Y.d1ORfBt7xon64nT9DTqXr7Kd9jV8d91tpSWdkBYL_STc8pTAo6ok_hzS.PYpLuGh 7qbp8PXDE9X8YBzAUYOsr8ZzF4fSr5P._DFxve8tHU44ZD4krNg0b5J_XiNl98C1ZMkodddyNHqD Ngs5em2EcOu3CvPdyR15KK1hclocZtsON.gSlCQc8P4q2UjRFmCPL4lXC9Cp4A4O4hiMRVa3TQTX I2cTTwYmXxlPjxn1cAA10gy1X2zAQCC0twDVkVngR5GHyle0hJN0k4rSWuHgbIoIsXzZk80SYibY .tiOPTf3RCDNWrW.ryzzey3zIfWLJl54mmRf1b_RWINCRNHYI1IUnikqY5HW5R6_c0yqXOJn2kW7 eTP.1GbvQKZgDSyJTQzZRNi_ZT7RfWImaGi52mpQd9LmLhJzPtepNBraEZ85Sin1.WiSMXyB70BT spQCQVIIGJXU248LddcWzc2qohvESqS0HiH2GzYHz8Uz7BlQ7C1TCpRVI5DCdO7kxq_0zZ9TiU0_ 1ISdTAHDZ6zbq0v6YKgHWfhnO14cUY5R8qayRtlwFi5RvHB5NZgfoAYP2rLTvzL10YeXKw8cn07A SyVTxP6WJieWQgUQ_FmgyS9wfQIuPkF5s4fFoEE270bBPY_1r6m9v9ccFYQ61BVIoXYQshe5SNTu TgHcmUW5.kGN9j9PxA7yKVr1XSOZeGIC_V0w3DJhyLm5_3hlRMMQQpdoFXrrlkGXGlNndJ0f3em6 DLK1FaMbfIOnFtJAi6VAnwTJspogCYNt4b6BuZNn5bFrjQ7asv_yEMwSCnOOkTGay3L0g1JuguSM 4eNlAGaujicuqWUzvh6EGxuilGRX_luNUhuIEay50s3h8jz9J.FDSxn_k_UjubnsN2pv2NEumh5X 0nuFAcmePzc4jXWIKryZeud3vqkIs7_xH_EGlK_F8Gy1XKhd95HO_xKRUJsfP0wcnkbAWoz912NH MA79thnKwsGneNGz6TYYQrL1SaFsxr7mgCXXTq092utq746GdkLBaM67ygvwSe4oA05mk9vQ3.UJ N8zuJvilXik6j3JnA2i4Z.7aOWUeYIPiBjnNanQa8QstqYYq9yK_uzC7BfVN50brwo7aFrSxzTam 2Uwwr7MbsFcxa4guDEMzqZZXl2fiIBWMvfAfRuaWLpBJbt1NjEjIkZsxqTWged.oqfsHrpX3yjkF gUPPU7GPbNIm.d7z8ky90Xxh7wXQl.Z_mce0t Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 10:30:53 +0000 Received: by smtp417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 046bd40c34d7af8c06eb715bf3f0fb33; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 10:30:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\)) Subject: head -r355777: Lack of USB keyboard input during loader Message-Id: <59C93C5F-B8DD-47CC-BD7D-FE3DADBD0DDA@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 02:30:49 -0800 To: FreeBSD Current , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) References: <59C93C5F-B8DD-47CC-BD7D-FE3DADBD0DDA.ref@yahoo.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47cZDH4St3z48kg X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.625,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.41)[-0.414,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[30.68.137.98.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (5.10), ipnet: 98.137.64.0/21(0.89), asn: 36647(0.71), country: US(-0.05)]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 10:30:56 -0000 I normally use a PS2 keyboard on a Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 (with a ThreadRipper 1950X) during its boot sequence. (Most use is via ssh once booted.) But I've used a USB keyboard as well on rare occasion. (Unsure when that last was.) Well, I happened to try using a USB keyboard for head -r355777 and: A) The USB keyboard worked fine for controlling the BIOS operation (F12h BIOS version) B) It was ignored by the loader (so: booted via the timeout) C) It worked fine for logging-in on the console and later activity there This was repeatable. By contrast, for the PS2 keyboard, all 3 stages worked fine when tested, also repeatable. Overall I can avoid (B) in my context, but I thought that the status might be of interest to someone. The -r355777 build is a non-debug build (with symbols). At this point I've not established any other head -r355777 (or later) instances on any other hardware and I do not normally use usb keyboards for booting, other than on old PowerMacs. So I've no evidence for how the issue might generalize. It may be the weekend (or longer) before I'd find out. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)