From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 4 0:28:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F103837B400 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-232-220-15.client.attbi.com [12.232.220.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D6243E65 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g847Qu9h005466; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g847QunD005465; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:26:56 -0700 From: David Schultz To: Michael WARDLE Cc: FreeBSD Current Mailing List Subject: Re: web browsers (was: Re: aout support broken in gcc3) Message-ID: <20020904072655.GA5364@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Michael WARDLE , FreeBSD Current Mailing List References: <20020904141916.B9524-100000@gamplex.bde.org> <3D759CCC.D96C11AA@mindspring.com> <20020904064122.GA5220@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <038901c253df$da7f8d80$354ba8c0@wodonga.adacel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <038901c253df$da7f8d80$354ba8c0@wodonga.adacel.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Michael WARDLE : > The Gecko engine developed by the Mozilla Project, however seems > to be very good. I find Galeon quite nice, as it uses Mozilla's > quite capable HTML rendering engine, has its own well designed > GTK-based GUI, and has little of Mozilla's bloat. > > Netscape Navigator <= 4.? has quite bad HTML rendering, and is > disliked greatly by most web developers I know (not to condone > it, but it's little wonder that many web sites are now "designed > for Internet Explorer"). I would suggest to anybody still using > Netscape 4 on a Unix platform that they try a replacement > browser, whether that be Mozilla, Galeon, or something else > (perhaps Opera or Konqueror). I quite agree that everything fell apart with the 4.x browser wars. The standards-compliance aspect is improving, but at the rate browsers seem to be going, I'm going to need another processor just to surf the web pretty soon. I've tried Mozilla, Opera, and Skipstone and found intolerable shortcomings and annoyances in each. I'm reluctant to try Galeon because I don't have the bloat that is Gnome anymore, and if I reinstalled it all for the sake of a web browser, I would also seriously need a bigger hard drive. I may go back to Skipstone. It's minimalistic enough that if it's been under active development since I last used it, it's probably pretty stable. > If you're looking for a replacement Internet mail client, you > might like to try Mutt, Balsa, Sylpheed, or Evolution. I already use mutt; I don't like clicky interfaces. I wish there were a web browser that worked as well as mutt, and I think it's too bad that lynx is inadequate for rendering complicated web pages these days. Followups, if any, to -chat, where the subscribers are used to this topic coming up all the time... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message