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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:15:04 +0200
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Subject: Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports
From: Daniel Nebdal <dnebdal@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Darren Pilgrim
<list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com> wrote:
> On 2013-04-08 10:22, Florent Peterschmitt wrote:
>>
>> Yep, OpenSSH is tiny enought to keep it in base system. It would be a
>> big loss not to have it by default, securely installed in the base
>> system.
>
>
> I really wish it wasn't.  Having OpenSSH (and thus OpenSSL) in the base
> means FreeBSD has an outdated version installed by default.  You have to
> install openssl from ports in order to have modern cipher support, TLS
> v1.1/1.2, DTLS, etc.  This puts two sets of openssl libs on the system and
> creates recurrent headaches with builds where the autoconfiguration selects
> the wrong set of libs.
>
>
I guess it would be possible to rename it to something autoconf
misses, so ports have to use the ports-version? It enforces some
redundancy, though I won't speculate on how much disk space it works
out to.

--
Daniel Nebdal