From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Nov 2 11:48: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2734B37B4CF for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2JloU25174; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Bob Martin Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About introducing newbies to FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message from Bob Martin of "Thu, 02 Nov 2000 07:31:19 CST." <3A016CA7.1F9560EF@buckhorn.net> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 11:47:50 -0800 Message-ID: <25170.973194470@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > First, I would like to clarify that I personally like sysinstall just > the way it is. But from most accounts, it's alienating to people coming > from a Windows or Linux background. > [recap of discussion from 1993 elided] I'm not just being snide here, we really have had this very same discussion (and in almost the same words) on and off for the last 7 years now. It's hardly rocket science to envision an installer which has one big button on it which even your grandmother could push, the question always boiling down to "Who the heck is going to write this thing then?" That's generally where the discussion stops. Every man and his dog can describe an installer which follows in the footsteps of Windows, Solaris or even OS X now that we have its installer to look at since imitation is a pretty straight-forward design challenge. As I first said back in 1993, "who will step up to the plate and create this alternative installer so that we can evaluate its merits and possibly even make it the default?" I'm still waiting for an answer to that question, 7 years later. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message