From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 23 17:49:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45071218; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D69AF2BDC; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6NHnA91059067; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:49:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6NHnA3k059064; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:49:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:49:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: Need help untangling Xorg behavior on Haswell board, KMS, etc. etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <51E99691.1090808@reynoldsnet.org> <51EE6256.4020902@freebsd.org> <51EE8546.6030803@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3512871622-831162289-1374601750=:59063" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:49:10 -0600 (MDT) Cc: John Reynolds , "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" , Niclas Zeising X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:49:12 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3512871622-831162289-1374601750=:59063 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Niclas Zeising wrote: > > On 2013-07-23 14:59, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Niclas Zeising wrote: > > In general, running without a xorg.conf should work, but there are a lot > of different hardware and setups out there, and just because it works on > Linux does not mean it works on FreeBSD without xorg.conf.  If you want > to have more control of exactly what's going on, a config is probably to > prefer. > If you use xorg without HAL, you must have a config at least detailing > your input devices for them to work properly. > > > My experience is that input device sections are not needed unless custom > settings are needed in them. X autodetects them fine without HAL. > > > I've had trouble in the past, at least with mice... > > > Ah.  PS/2 mice, maybe?  I admit I have not tried one of those in a long, long time. > > > My T520 works well with the "PS/2 mouse". It's actually the TrackPoint mouse, but it looks like a PS/2 mouse to the system. > > I needed nothing in my config. I am using moused. The only thing in my Xorg.conf file is a list of fonts that I have added. moused is probably the important part there. With USB mice, moused is started automatically by devd. --3512871622-831162289-1374601750=:59063--