From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 1 13:44:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D1E37B477 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 13:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.scott.sh (c19078.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au [210.49.237.167]) by mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g31LiZJ28271; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:44:35 +1000 Received: (from scotia@localhost) by gandalf.scott.sh (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g31LiY706606; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:44:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from scotia) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:44:34 +1000 From: Scott Aitken To: doug , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is Support For Writing to NTFS Planned? (fwd) Message-ID: <20020401214434.GA1154@gandalf.scott.sh> Mail-Followup-To: doug , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. My next question is thus... is there any way to convert NTFS to the FreeBSD FS? I understand there are things that don't translate, but I would be happy to lose this information. Regards, Scott On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:20:05PM -0500, doug wrote: > This was posted a while back and has has much information as I have found. > While the man page suggests writing is possible under "limited" > conditions, I was not able to do so. I assume samba would also be a > solution assuming this is not a partition on the same machine. > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Scott Aitken wrote: > > > Hi all, > > are there any issues mounting NTFS (made by WinXP) as read write? I > have an 80gig drive I would lik$ > > TIA > > Scott > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 00:40:43 -0700 > From: Ted Mittelstaedt > To: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, > sreese@codysbooks.com > Subject: RE: Is Support For Writing to NTFS Planned? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert > >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:35 AM > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; sreese@codysbooks.com > >Subject: Re: Is Support For Writing to NTFS Planned? > > > > > >sreese@codysbooks.com (Scott Reese) writes: > > > >> Hi all, I was just wondering if there were any plans to improve the > >> driver for mounting NTFS partitions on FreeBSD? I just read the man > >> page and it's over 2 years old, so I wondered if maybe nobody was > >> working on it. Most of the time I don't need to write anything to the > >> partition (just read), but it would be nice. :) > >> > >> I would also be interested to know why this particular driver is only > >> able to achieve read-only status. Are there severe technical hurtles or > >> is it simply a lack of time/interest? I found a few things in the > >> archives, but there was nothing really concrete in there that I could > >> find. > > > >Nobody seems to be working on it. Ustimenko Semen has been keeping it > >working, but as far as I can see there's no active development going on. > > > >The main trick with features like this is that you're trying to keep up > >with a moving target. read-only, at least, can't lose any of your data. > > > > Keep in mind also that there are a number of copyrights by IBM on parts of > the NTFS code (just as there are some Microsoft copyrights on parts of the > HPFS code used in OS/2) and this is one area that Microsoft only releases > programming info on it under NDA. The FreeBSD NTFS driver was entirely > reverse-engineered as far as I can tell. While it's possible enough to > reverse-engineer a read-only driver where your just looking at the data > that someone else wrote out, to actually go into the NTFS filesystem and > start mucking around without knowing how it's supposed to work is most > likely going to be futile. > > One other problem, of course, is that even if you know what your doing you > still have the problem that NT uses ACL's in NTFS and there's no > coorespondence > for them in UNIX. > > If you need to ability to write (like on a dual-boot system) then create > a MS-DOS partition and mount that under FreeBSD. > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- Scott Aitken e: scotta@whoever.com M: +44 778 984 1799 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message