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Date:      Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:44:34 +1000
From:      Scott Aitken <scotta@whoever.com>
To:        doug <doug@safeport.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is Support For Writing to NTFS Planned? (fwd)
Message-ID:  <20020401214434.GA1154@gandalf.scott.sh>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1020401161154.14983A-100000@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1020401161154.14983A-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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Thanks.

My next question is thus... is there any way to convert NTFS to the FreeBSD FS?
I understand there are things that don't translate, but I would be happy to lose this information.

Regards,
Scott

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:20:05PM -0500, doug wrote:
> This was posted a while back and has has much information as I have found.
> While the man page suggests writing is possible under "limited"
> conditions, I was not able to do so. I assume samba would also be a
> solution assuming this is not a partition on the same machine.
> 
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Scott Aitken wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > are there any issues mounting NTFS (made by WinXP) as read write?  I
> have an 80gig drive I would lik$
> > TIA
> > Scott
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 00:40:43 -0700
> From: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
> To: Lowell Gilbert <lowell@world.std.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG,
>     sreese@codysbooks.com
> Subject: RE: Is Support For Writing to NTFS Planned?
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert
> >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:35 AM
> >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; sreese@codysbooks.com
> >Subject: Re: Is Support For Writing to NTFS Planned?
> >
> >
> >sreese@codysbooks.com (Scott Reese) writes:
> >
> >> Hi all, I was just wondering if there were any plans to improve the
> >> driver for mounting NTFS partitions on FreeBSD?  I just read the man
> >> page and it's over 2 years old, so I wondered if maybe nobody was
> >> working on it.  Most of the time I don't need to write anything to the
> >> partition (just read), but it would be nice.  :)
> >>
> >> I would also be interested to know why this particular driver is only
> >> able to achieve read-only status.  Are there severe technical hurtles or
> >> is it simply a lack of time/interest?  I found a few things in the
> >> archives, but there was nothing really concrete in there that I could
> >> find.
> >
> >Nobody seems to be working on it.  Ustimenko Semen has been keeping it
> >working, but as far as I can see there's no active development going on.
> >
> >The main trick with features like this is that you're trying to keep up
> >with a moving target.  read-only, at least, can't lose any of your data.
> >
> 
> Keep in mind also that there are a number of copyrights by IBM on parts of
> the NTFS code (just as there are some Microsoft copyrights on parts of the
> HPFS code used in OS/2) and this is one area that Microsoft only releases
> programming info on it under NDA.  The FreeBSD NTFS driver was entirely
> reverse-engineered as far as I can tell.  While it's possible enough to
> reverse-engineer a read-only driver where your just looking at the data
> that someone else wrote out, to actually go into the NTFS filesystem and
> start mucking around without knowing how it's supposed to work is most
> likely going to be futile.
> 
> One other problem, of course, is that even if you know what your doing you
> still have the problem that NT uses ACL's in NTFS and there's no
> coorespondence
> for them in UNIX.
> 
> If you need to ability to write (like on a dual-boot system) then create
> a MS-DOS partition and mount that under FreeBSD.
> 
> Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
> Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
> 
> 
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