From nobody Fri Aug 8 15:15:29 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bz6zd0vWyz642L1; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bz6zc6dPQz3R2T; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1754666141; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6rxbuxZO6b0BPDNVo+qfr3iMH7qAyoAKZNycRmh5vyw=; b=sKh2VefBB2v03YxYIQMlgvS1U8k0aJ71xNbwllLJbJb9IerMs4XKoI8umJBqCfXG0pwftj 6fFrL8mMwzGbmsGukyx6+gdA35l7ls7IqJqoNAmfYUgN545wmUF0/lQBVCwnhFtxj3J6h6 U/ntdVCRUKa+s97lQXPzOBAeTx4InpM2GJx/jllnNyr3SjNc+kNpFv+ixvBQVXd9KsMKUy DpOmDTmD7WJb82dn3aPJOE8VRdibKptmAU7IQOkiM8HDFqOLymelJYucIq0i64S6tQsB9Z Ut8+xb85z26IdqWAfN7+tlYK+LLIVCB1YVQRpzHSUZ+jly3qw2ir7ZxxfH4wWw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1754666141; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6rxbuxZO6b0BPDNVo+qfr3iMH7qAyoAKZNycRmh5vyw=; b=wXB1osm4dD/84Qw/SSma6ta28k7h4uq46NJJ+36EkD0XZpQ/eA29Lebfy3NaiBL4h/xxan bMzRqtcS4IkSfOReTbzPrM8LuXso/NRxkmyiGJ0cbvCHK+nLMnfhxSnu7hdGF1i/oC+gUX udTubkgabZxOBtsR4duphG4b/VgpqagK8sA/TIcmVZNMB6tBqafN6iWUILTaUWjYRkG8oU 373DFT6nDtFhMLjTRDwL9SvQ3k4OXx/qZK4ac/qcI7tbxKZGQQg9mCJnhW3PSB/1lik0fY 3TYDOS014DFM27K7qfVVRRZqR/wPxinJFPI5/Lpyq50MiNfH+r9m8L73h0QJcA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1754666141; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Gde2axqFtg9VDoCQgNrUcYYx68B89DZ4ZgSjB8/dThW8MgCjWa/CF6tlZdO7FDKCXKn+Xl 6jvv8iQidRoWJYkIcZ0ycbQ2jMTrYWvKSxVtr9EhLT6u949fU3aWxFxKBvQ9tJJ5FB/xvK q+bz1FFViJiX6t35v6x6wl8gRXnOVmRoi3g/G2QZybXlCuKo2wO1ekB4+ei/MpakU8ecuH Z4JDLSqaAw8xJnGAPn/x9I62JEmh/CM1cVaM7C6EIRfSgOzKmDgfNad7O8HRfc4VodpxAe ukVEHniiA8kQyzLKnlb9LfycAvgEl6GmW1Je5eJwmWd93A9yOjXg16D68Mp6Fw== Received: from smtp.theravensnest.org (smtp.theravensnest.org [45.77.103.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: theraven) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4bz6zc5nNlzL9x; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtpclient.apple (host86-143-41-189.range86-143.btcentralplus.com [86.143.41.189]) by smtp.theravensnest.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F0E5BD5; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 16:15:40 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51.11.1\)) Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <81470e1f-5a91-453b-a1aa-20a7e9fb8855@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 16:15:29 +0100 Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD CURRENT , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <33CC4995-5B1D-4640-A5B0-2E7AD599D5BA@FreeBSD.org> References: <79429D6B-7948-4D27-9F14-664CC075547A@FreeBSD.org> <7D0CD326-0CB0-41F0-99C2-BFEB9F4DC1EA@FreeBSD.org> <81470e1f-5a91-453b-a1aa-20a7e9fb8855@FreeBSD.org> To: DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51.11.1) On 8 Aug 2025, at 15:59, DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator = wrote: >=20 > On 8/8/2025 4:20 PM, David Chisnall wrote: >> Every upgrade flow I have on every FreeBSD machine I use is = simplified by pkgbase. Having fewer tools is a usability win. Having a = single command upgrade everything is a usability win. If you*want to* = upgrade only some things, that=E2=80=99s one extra command-line flag. > Just to clarify things from an inverse perspective: in a pkgbase = scenario, how would one go about deleting all ports, and only ports? = What would the new pkg command be? It should be `pkg del -r {repo name}`. It is not, currently, because (unlike the install commands), `pkg = delete` does not accept the `-r` flag (presumably because the only place = where it makes sense is in concert with the `-a` flag and no one thought = of that use case). I think that=E2=80=99s a bug, it should probably be fixed. And now we = have a meaningful and actionable requirement. I have filed this issue: https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2494 David=