Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:33:51 +1000 From: David Nugent <davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> To: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xquake + sound?? Message-ID: <199708120833.SAA01299@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 10 Aug 1997 21:33:52 MST." <199708110433.VAA11351@rah.star-gate.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
> > and working under FreeBSD? Yeah, I realise the library is a real mess in > > many respects, but it is pretty much a standard for console-based games > > for i386 UNIX and clones. Having conversed with him a couple of times, > > I'm reasonably sure that Dive Kirsch could be convinced to compile a > > FreeBSD native version of squake, or even running the Linux version would > > be cool too. :) I gather we need a few hooks in syscons. > > Don't care to support svgalib and it does not require a lot of work > to port . I have done it in the past a couple of times and flat out > refused to release the code. Hmm? Then why bother to do the port? :-) Just curious. In any case, I'm encouraged to have a look at it. If the mods required to syscon are minor then I'll even have a go at convincing Soren to put 'em in. :) It can't hurt, and if the cost is small - why not? It's another reason to run FreeBSD. > Since xf86quake has full access to the frame buffer I don't see much > of a need for svgalib. You see svgalib is mostly used to access > the frame buffer. Well, sure, but without any X overhead and memory use. Not everyone has a Pentium 120 or better with gobs of RAM. > And I hope that you are enjoying xquake + sound as much as I am > over here. Actually, I suspect that my last statement accounts for some lack of response. I'll put it this way - under Linux I run squake with ctbots - it requires a *lot* of CPU to run the bots. Even a dedicated server requires a 686 or Pentium at 150mhz or greater to run at a decent speed without "chopping". On this machine, squake under Linux works great - and handles up to 8 bots/team. This is *not* like playing normal quake, where the demands are significantly less, although nightmore difficulty level is starting to get there. Now, with xquake and even xf86quake, the X overhead is quite noticeable. The server runs more slowly - pretty much unusable for network play and almost unusable for even single play with this many bots (and it is less challenging with lesser numbers, trust me ;-)). Now, take the machine down a peg or two and the difference between running under X, even with the mapped frame buffer, and an svgalib based version will be even greater. Regards, David
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?199708120833.SAA01299>