From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 22 16:55:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA1737B401; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537AF43E6E; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9MNtAs7017133; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:55:10 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g9MNt9SU017131; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:55:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:55:09 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gerhard_H=E4ring?= Cc: Brooks Davis , Ruslan Ermilov , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building -CURRENT with 4.5-RELEASE Message-ID: <20021022165509.A16179@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20021022022523.GA5953@gargamel.ghaering.test> <20021022092354.GL3325@sunbay.com> <20021022215211.GA545@lilith.ghaering.test> <20021022150125.A22457@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20021022234814.GA567@lilith.ghaering.test> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021022234814.GA567@lilith.ghaering.test>; from haering_linux@gmx.de on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:48:14AM +0200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:48:14AM +0200, Gerhard H=E4ring wrote: > * Brooks Davis [2002-10-22 15:01 -0700]: > > Are you running a current kernel at this point? If you aren't it's safe > > to say it won't work. >=20 > No, this is 4.5-RELEASE, as I said. By "current kernel", do you mean an > up-to-date FreeBSD 4, like 4.7-STABLE, or a -CURRENT kernel? I mean a -CURRENT kernel like /usr/src/UPDATING tells you to use. UPDATING is the authoritative document on this subject. > When I came to FreeBSD, ppl told me that you don't update the kernel > separately, so I'm not sure what you mean. You don't want to randomly update the kernel without updating userland because some program like ipfw will stop working sometimes. On the flip side, if you don't update the kernel before install world, the old kernel may not support syscalls required by the new binaries. In the past this has included things like /bin/sh so it is necessicary to install a new kernel before installing a new world unless you want to get your self into a real mess. Additionaly, it's very easy to switch back to an old kernel. Switching back to an older world requires backups. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9teVcXY6L6fI4GtQRAlrCAJ9zbvjm0NBwuEixYHP2PogtfnXewACeP54A SX9WTW1sAWbgR5m4TP5gMd0= =HTt+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message