From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Feb 23 10:39:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6431937B40F for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3E043FB1 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:39:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org ([10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with ESMTP id h1NIdec21754 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:39:40 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de: Host [10.3.12.105] claimed to be lofi.dyndns.org Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1NIdcfM089443 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:39:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports-options and packages Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:39:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200302231547.16715.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20030223175622.37df1a27.sheep.killer@cultdeadsheep.org> In-Reply-To: <20030223175622.37df1a27.sheep.killer@cultdeadsheep.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UID: 946 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_qVRW+b6osb4ICXZ"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200302231939.38539.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Boundary-02=_qVRW+b6osb4ICXZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 23 February 2003 17:56, you wrote: > Hi, > > First of all, I think that default options are maintainer's choice. Stop > me if I'm wrong, but it should be a nightmare to maintain a such system. I honestly don't know, that's why I was asking the question on the mailing= =20 list - maybe people are already coming up with something clever. > Generally maintainer of a port doesn't maintain its dependencies. > Default options are needed to keep ports tree consistency. Moreover, > "full run" will take too much time (re-compiling all this new packages > for stable i386/alpha, current on all other arch's etc.). It implies > too, that maintainer specifies which switch must be used at packaging > time. That's already happening now, and that's what makes me unhappy. Most=20 maintainers (myself included) go with a policiy of "pull as few deps in as= =20 possible" when adding Makefile-switches to ports. For packages users this=20 means, that they usually will have to install the ports-collection and=20 compile their ports, even if they'd rather not, just because they want=20 mplayer (for example) to have a GUI, or transcode to support xvid... and ev= en=20 worse, a novice FreeBSD user has absolutely no way of even knowing that it = is=20 actually possible to get, for example, an mplayer with a GUI, because neith= er=20 the packages nor existing documentation describes that ports offer options= =20 that packages do not. =2D-=20 Regards, Michael Nottebrock --Boundary-02=_qVRW+b6osb4ICXZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+WRVqXhc68WspdLARAo5dAKCr0zIHkIo4ppexVjNnLGMSYo7Z2QCglhxX jUsk2EVfRpGwBoUaTPHjRUc= =TUQj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_qVRW+b6osb4ICXZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message