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MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.215.172:from]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.215.172:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vv47y0gQnz3xh8 --yuy36hhzwjkj4ibk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 03:27:54PM +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > On 16/06/2022 15:56, Rick Macklem wrote: > > Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: > > > On 24/01/2022 16:13, Rick Macklem wrote: > > >=20 > > [...] > > >=20 > > > > So, I think Mark and Yuri are correct and looking at up to date > > > > Illumos sources is the next step. > > > > (As I mentioned, porting the Apple sources is beyond what I am > > > > willing to attempt.) > > > >=20 > > > > rick > > >=20 > > > Hello Rick, > > > I would like to ask you I there is some progress with porting newer > > > SMBFS / CIFS version to FreeBSD? Did you find Illumos sources as a > > > possibility where to start porting? > > Yes. I have the stuff off Illumos-gate, which I think is pretty up-to-d= ate > > and I agree that it should be easier than the Apple stuff to port into > > FreeBSD. I don't think it is "straightforward" as someone involved > > with Illumos said, due to the big differences in VFS/locking, but... > >=20 > > Having said the above, I have not done much yet. I've been cleaning up > > NFS stuff, although I am nearly done with that now. > > I do plan on starting to work on it soon, but have no idea if/when I > > will have something that might be useful for others. >=20 > I'm glad to hear that. >=20 > > > We have more and more problems with current state of mount_smbfs. I > > > would be really glad if "somebody" can do the heroic work of > > > implementing SMBv2 in FreeBSD. > > > Maybe it's time to start some fundraising for sponsoring this work? > > Well, funding isn't an issue for me (I'm just a retired guy who does th= is > > stuff as a hobby). However, if there is someone else who is capable of > > doing it if they are funded, I have no problem with that. > > I could either help them, or simply stick with working on NFS and leave > > SMBv23 to them. > >=20 > > Sorry, but I cannot report real progress on this as yet, rick >=20 > No need to sorry. I really appreciate your endless work on NFS and that y= ou > still have kind of interest to try porting SMBv2/3. > Unfortunately I don't know anybody else trying to do this tremendous work. >=20 I am working on a from scratch implementation of smbfs. I do not have any kind of time estimate since it is in my spare time. I chose this route after spending considerable time looking at Apple and Solaris implementations and wanting something without all of the legacy 1.0 crap. I do have a very minimal working FUSE version at this point, but there is much to do, and even more to abide by the various specifications. 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