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Date:      Fri, 20 May 2022 09:38:36 -0600
From:      "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com>
To:        FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Single User
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On 2022 May 20, at 00:18, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 23:50:48 -0600
> kremels@kreme.com wrote:
>=20
>> On 2022-May-19 23:02, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 15:06:07 -0600
>>> "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> On 2022 May 19, at 08:20, Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br> wrote:
>>>>> Man .. I'm old!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I even know where these terms came from. They're typewriter terms =
.
>>>>=20
>>>> Not old enough! They're actaul1y teletype terms and codes!
>>>=20
>>> 	Typewrites had carriage return and line feed levers long before
>>> there were teletypes or ASCII.
>>=20
>> The codes are teletype codes, not typewriter codes. All you need to =
do=20
>=20
> 	"typewriter codes" ? Typewriters are mechanical devices that do =
not
> use codes. The codes are there in ASCII because teletypes needed the =
same
> functions as typewriters. The terms were in use for typewriters =
decades
> before there were teletypes, ASCII or even BCD. They were old when =
computer
> was a job description.

Nope. Cottage Return was the name of the handle on the typewriter. =
Everything else is from teletype machines. There was th "Horizontal tab" =
on a typewriter, it was just a 'tab' and there was certainly not =
vertical tab. There was no 'line feed' because you didn't have a term =
for 'turn the roller by hand'.


--=20
"Esprit de corpse," said the Senior Wrangler. Ridcully glared at him




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