From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 15:51:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3D416A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.41.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC44843D46 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:51:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: from arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7VFp27R058058 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:51:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) Received: (from rv@localhost) by arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7VFp2JQ058057 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:51:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr: rv set sender to herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr using -f Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:51:02 +0200 From: Herve Quiroz To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050831155102.GA57775@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org References: <20050831120023.56A8916A44A@hub.freebsd.org> <20050831072640.R83235@roble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050831072640.R83235@roble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Eclipse as part of the ports/java tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:51:06 -0000 Roger, On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:48:43AM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote: > Vizion wrote: > >I am now faced with the question is the ports tree as inflexible as some > >people suggest or are some members of our meritocracy more inflexible than > >the freebsd assets? > > What you see as inflexibility the rest of us see as structure. Sure > it would be nice to insert a goto on occasion but, from a long-term > perspective, the existing structure is better. As I already told David in a private mail, he seems to lack the proper understanding of the depth and complexity of the ports system. And as I stated in the forecited message to David, I will now focus on getting the 'java' category fully virtualized and begone from the freebsd-eclipse effort unless specifically asked for help. I have some other issues to tackle on my own. As a side note, I am already starting to find that the freebsd-eclipse@ mailing list will have things even more difficult for the community to get commiters involved in the process. > Mark Linimon wrote: > >In your most recent email I think you are finally getting a lot closer to > >what I consider 'real' problem. IMHO the interesting problems you want to > >solve are the 'search' and 'browse' problems. > > This is a good point, and a legitimate issue. One solution might be > to move or symlink portsearch from /usr/ports/Tools/scripts to > /usr/local/bin. I agree with this. portsearch is such a great tool that I wonder why it has not yet found its way into ${PREFIX}/bin. We are flying away from the Java and Eclipse discussion here but since Mark (and his maintainer hat) is involved, I would like to suggest the idea to have such symlink created by sysutils/port-maintenance-tools. Herve