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To: "vsnsdualce@memeware.net" Cc: Raul Miller , "visionsofalice@redchan.it" , "freebsd-women@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-chat@freebsd.org" , OpenBSD general usage list , "owner-misc@openbsd.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 913818B54D X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=I3SgLTRB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of turkelchristopher@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::132 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=turkelchristopher@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.25 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.955,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.29)[ip: (-8.00), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.86), asn: 15169(-1.50), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:53:43 -0000 This whole discussion is best served elsewhere. On Thursday, December 27, 2018, wrote: > Why is no one discussing this anymore. > > It's like you just accepted the "NU UH U WRONG" proclamation from > programmers. > > Are you idiots aware that programmers DO NOT KNOW THE LAW simply by virtue > of being "smarts"? > > Are you idiots aware that I am a lawyer, I have studied the law, and I do > know more than the programmers on this issue (note: I'm also a programmer > too... but for something useful... like games :) ) > > Are you idiots aware that Eben Moglen (drafter of the GPLv3 (not 2, Linux > is under 2)) has NOT made good on his pledge to publish a report on how I'm > wrong and let me "correct" him where he got it wrong. > > Why do you think that is? That in 2 months nothing. > > It's because, as a relative who's worked in the field for many decades > said: he's full of shit. > > Anything he publishes would just undermine the stance he's taken. > > The license IS recindable at the will of the 1000s of grantors. Any one of > them could shake the tree. > >