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Date:      Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:04:25 -0700
From:      Mark Millard via freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
To:        fbsd@www.zefox.net
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Too many pythons in poudriere
Message-ID:  <044A7E63-2734-41F4-A1A2-AE5096C6A62C@yahoo.com>
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From: bob prohaska <fbsd_at_www.zefox.net> wrote on
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 14:53:20 -0700 :

> In trying to compile www/chromium under poudriere on a Pi3 there
> comes a point when five python2.7 sessions totaling more than 2 GB
> in size are running at once. Obviously, swap is swamped and the Pi3
> is running at a crawl. It hasn't givem up, however.
>=20
> Poudriere was started with -J 2 and make is limited to 2 jobs.=20
> Is there an analogous limit to how many pythons are loosed at
> once? It looks like there's only one builder, so it isn't
> obvious that -J 1 would help; I'll try it if this job stops
> prematurely.

It will not help. There were no competing build jobs.

> Progress, such as it is, can be seen at
>=20
> =
http://www.zefox.org/~bob/poudriere/data/logs/bulk/main-default/2021-07-05=
_14h06m26s/build.html

By the time I looked it had run out of swap space:

Swapinfo 100.00%

and had stopped for build/timeout after 50:33:26 .

For reference, including "swap_pager: out of swap space"
and "swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed":

QUOTE

Wed Jul  7 15:20:34 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1831744    11456    99%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1832328    10872    99%
Total             3686400  3664072    22328    99%
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:20:46 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1838356     4844   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1838928     4272   100%
Total             3686400  3677284     9116   100%
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:20:56 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1841260     1940   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1841836     1364   100%
Total             3686400  3683096     3304   100%
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:21:08 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843000      200   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843124       76   100%
Total             3686400  3686124      276   100%
. . .
Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:21:20 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843128       72   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843140       60   100%
Total             3686400  3686268      132   100%
. . .
Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:21:30 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843160       40   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843116       84   100%
Total             3686400  3686276      124   100%
. . .
Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:21:45 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:22:05 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:48:46 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:57:01 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
. . .
Wed Jul  7 15:57:21 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
. . .
Wed Jul  7 16:31:52 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
Jul  7 16:13:16 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
. . .
Wed Jul  7 17:47:11 PDT 2021
Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
/dev/da0s2b       1843200    32696  1810504     2%
/dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200    33572  1809628     2%
Total             3686400    66268  3620132     2%

END QUOTE

It looks like for the configuration as it is, the
bulk build needs to build such that the load
average stays near 1 or less, avoiding near 2 or
more: no use of ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes during the bulk
build is one way to do that.

In http://www.zefox.org/~bob/poudriere.conf (modified
for illustration):

# By default MAKE_JOBS is disabled to allow only one process per cpu
# Use the following to allow it anyway
#ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes
# List of packages that will always be allowed to use MAKE_JOBS
# regardless of ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS. This is useful for allowing ports
# which holdup the rest of the queue to build more quickly.
#ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS_PACKAGES=3D"pkg ccache py*"

I'll also note that:

http://www.zefox.org/~bob/poudriere.d/make.conf

should not ever have the "ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes" that
is does: it is the wrong symbol for that kind of
context. poudriere converts ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS to something
else used in make.

QUOTE (not modified for illustration)
ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes
MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3D2
#.if ${.CURDIR:M*www/chromium}
#MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER_LIMIT=3D2
#.endif
#.if ${.CURDIR:M*databases/sqlite3}
#MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER_LIMIT=3D2
#.endif
#.if ${.CURDIR:M*www/firefox}
#MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER_LIMIT=3D2
#.endif
END QUOTE


>=20
> The last time www/chromium was compiled (using make) on this machine=20=

> I don't remember seeing such a python jam. If it happened at all the=20=

> Pi3 worked through it faster than presently.=20

Which was the old make: -j1 vs. -j2 vs. -j3 vs. -j4 ?

The ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes use is like -j4 in your 4 core
context. Lack of ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes is like -j1 .

The -jN is for the number of make processes allowed to be
active per builder, including when there is only one builder.

The ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes meant that there was likely a massive
amount of paging activity that was taking up much of the
time. That would still have been true with a much lager
swap space: it is a type of context where Lack of
ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes may well take notably less time to
finish.


=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)




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