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Date:      Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:31:46 -0700
From:      David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How/why would dev.cpu.0.freq_levels change??!?
Message-ID:  <20080630233146.GQ13924@bunrab.catwhisker.org>
In-Reply-To: <200806301511.11294.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <200806281738.40672.jhb@freebsd.org> <20080629003216.3AA074500E@ptavv.es.net> <20080629185738.GG13924@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200806301511.11294.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 03:11:11PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> ...
> Are you sure it is really a problem?  Presumably the machine is overheati=
ng or=20
> something that is causing the BIOS to request that the CPU speed is lower=
ed=20
> (I wonder if Windows changes CPU speed when _PSS changes so that the  BIO=
S=20
> writer figured changing _PSS was sufficient to force the CPU to be=20
> throttled).  Presumably if the BIOS really is trying to protect the hardw=
are=20
> not doing what it wants might result in physical damage to the machine of=
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> some sort.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.  Evidence:

* The behavior is markedly different from what it had been up to about a
  week ago.  In particular, building RELENG_6, RELENG_7, and HEAD daily,
  the fans would normally vary in speed (based on pitch & intensity of
  sound, rather than from a sysctl variable) generally in an "expected"
  way based on the reported CPU temperature (this was from sysctl
  variable).

  Now, in contrast, the machinee runs for a bit, then the fans kick in,
  the CPU acts as if it maxes out at half speed.  And the *only* way I've
  found to even slow the fans down is to power-cycle -- even though the
  reported CPU temperature is way low -- around 45C.  (Exhaust air from
  the fans isn't especially warm, either.)

* As a result, a full "make buildworld" takes several hours longer than
  it did as recently as a week ago.

* I am now able to reproduce the problem just booting the machine to the
  BIOS config/setup stage.

* The fan noise is freaking annoying.  :-/

In any case, I've dropped the machine off for hardware repair.  I should
soon find out whether "repair" is a feasible option or I should look at
replacement.

Thanks for all your help!

Peace,
david
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David H. Wolfskill				david@catwhisker.org
I submit that "conspiracy" would be an appropriate collective noun for cats.

See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key.

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