From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 20:24:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B562B10CA9F6 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic316-14.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic316-14.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.130.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 540277C0BF for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: TQiDx7sVM1nALLFY53xvMATZQVsQIesyZhGhGkkYUJwFVL0HqUjHWxLahSMRxfO 4xQJIBg3dlEBh7JHyxHeDWkdq_H00tfAbjwVbWtqKSxE8T1CZhsr2E.ok3V_ATmg9B7mSygVcrz5 g1QZ5RtRHqfXXOZu9adEag4XE7kog8RAoEjz2.y9okMj3A7h8f7LKeln7PMexyIyn37abu8_mxVx Sk9ILHqqKHnY6Y.TbrcyXzbPC91v51Ma8AgJLeEMFaQauOmKDcScKccJbWYXLJhK8kc1TvFLIqsZ w3i_Hd6Cyiv43dlVhVp4abT.dxzayozhyspRQQrbF3GVSGfz0TvzXmW2GhDTzW9BeyM2mm3XoW.I DKkopHKcBXY6M3nDgK1oUHE654UyysvzSMfPWQVubOD9q59tza2uMGa.X1T504QORk6z3oHRfYPQ Oau5Z24foI6ZqUrpNgTO6LnunU4._9FkPGmqNWNunY69FYx2Mu5apxll.OjkgzGgmFHdHuLTSDYD DAu5wIYa2JEsplIahYLO_qpc6h2gY.YrEJtk2innTsmxMbTXPvq5UYGcCzkUIlIyPEjjfllxCbrW zpFMjvj9ZGHfmSZPGhTU86CS1UynrkFhjedWsQ2gjN4q_V5xCUkIrfc1MkfSsW7h1iy6TMcwplpx iQtun6JsBasrEXA_bG6mHOD78cgLuTxYYpK6z3BJKRj3Hjnu_rliCXTOHVaVBj4x74CRg9E4PFRq HDyQgFNOgKJTOx02ntNsPEHnNMAokUiJCEVIg3uSPNfLmzcs6RtqWvzo5swRfgV9oT.dvWUzCb9K YR86cMIjC1q3LGB_29V0QtEmDmB8BFmw8C5DemxDK_TOFytlNgTnNLRaLPIU.xLUdDIk0WcTTxE_ e8w7D74stUkkAysPoUqn7f8s6EQpL.BmeqIteya4bkJiyye95jfiFMhkk90aBmw4DPnpHNwbwk9W 8o5M5FQi8YnfQ5zir7DMjjLs70JmIDIY3ZNBBS5EgFOIKH0ibzB9bgLHApqNpXGzy14P9SQloTx9 CgzMBRuIz1GArbT_DhIIG1LBpCfQha82dii1Jy6gJC8rfWAQ_dlWdU64- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic316.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:24:31 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.101]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp427.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 16989e8e9cb29ec0fe491aa8a92d0420; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Failed attempt to boot a (non-debug) head -r339076 on an old PowerMac G5 "Quad Core" (built via devel/powerpc64-gcc): Waking up CPU 1 From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 13:24:27 -0700 Cc: "freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5EACF25C-5D4B-4F5E-9CD3-D680F7FB2703@yahoo.com> References: <0E6DB192-37A3-45EC-87E9-C5AA1C9397AE@yahoo.com> <785D268A-2612-459F-BD1F-A650D9ECCA28@fh-muenster.de> <3DCB6910-6F08-408A-B3D1-70A7EB5A55BC@yahoo.com> <037e3dd6-cc0c-a39f-f074-bce01887156c@blastwave.org> To: Dennis Clarke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:24:32 -0000 Wrong E-mail address was used: please use marklmi@yahoo.com instead or reply to this. On 2018-Oct-8, at 1:16 PM, Mark Millard <> wrote: On 2018-Oct-8, at 12:37 PM, Dennis Clarke = wrote: > On 10/08/2018 03:04 PM, Mark Millard via freebsd-ppc wrote: >> On 2018-Oct-8, at 10:25 AM, Michael Tuexen = wrote: >>>> On 8. Oct 2018, at 19:00, Mark Millard = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> [kern.smp.disabled=3D1 is confirmed to enable booting >>>> my head -r339076 build on teh "Quad Core", much like >>>> the 11.2 reports for "2MHz dual-core".] >>> Does 11.2 run with smp enabled? >> [My wording was poor: "reports" in "11.2 reports with >> smp enabled" was referring to reports by you and others >> on the lists, not screen messages from attempting a >> 11.2 boot.] >> No clue at this point for the G5 "Quad Core". I have no >> 11.x context established, and have not since head >> went from 11 to 12, as I remember. Would trying to boot >> an installer/live for 11.2 be sufficient to test >> this? >=20 >=20 > I have tried over and over to install 11.2 on a G5 with dual PPC970 > sockets wherein both are dual core. There is no quad core. Never was. > Anyways, the install simply doesn't work. See, for example: = https://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_quad_2.5.= html There was: two sockets with 2 cores each. Apple Marketing called this configuration "Quad Core": It is a misnomer or is at least misleading given what their "Dual Core" vs "dual processor" wording referred to. I frequently reference the "Quad Core" as "so-called 'Quad Core'" for the "PowerPC 970MP (G5) x2" configuration. I have access to two of these and top and other things show all 4 "cpus" (in FreeBSD terminology). =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)