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Date:      Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:37:08 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scott4long@yahoo.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, "Alexander V. Chernikov" <melifaro@ipfw.ru>
Subject:   Re: [rfc] migrate lagg to an rmlock
Message-ID:  <41614148-3900-4FE0-88AC-40F10DAE2030@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <201308291042.13282.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <CAJ-Vmo=VKVDEmmPrTbob6Ft%2B7FWypodNoL36Og=7p_CXBSfktg@mail.gmail.com> <5218AA36.1080807@ipfw.ru> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1308241511400.92711@fledge.watson.org> <201308291042.13282.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:42 AM, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:16:33 am Robert Watson wrote:
>> There are a number of other places in the kernel where migration to an rmlock 
>> makes sense -- however, some care must be taken for four reasons: (1) while 
>> read locks don't experience line contention, write locking becomes observably 
>> e.g., rmlocks might not be suitable for tcbinfo; (2) rmlocks, unlike rwlocks, 
>> more expensive so is not suitable for all rwlock line contention spots -- 
>> implement reader priority propagation, so you must reason about; and (3) 
>> historically, rmlocks have not fully implemented WITNESS so you may get less 
>> good debugging output.  if_lagg is a nice place to use rmlocks, as 
>> reconfigurations are very rare, and it's really all about long-term data 
>> stability.
> 
> 3) should no longer be an issue.  rmlocks now have full WITNESS and assertion
> support (including an rm_assert).
> 
> However, one thing to consider is that rmlocks pin readers to CPUs while the
> read lock is held (which rwlocks do not do).

And this is not a problem for the application that we're giving it in the lagg driver.

Scott




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