From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 20:13:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A14016A4CE for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 20:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDCA43D5A for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 20:13:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from viktorlazlo@telus.net) Received: from byx0rm.mr-clevver.com ([154.20.11.99]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.netESMTP <20040518031337.MFQX20314.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@byx0rm.mr-clevver.com>; Mon, 17 May 2004 21:13:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Viktor Lazlo X-X-Sender: viktorlazlo@byx0rm.mr-clevver.com To: Robert Storey In-Reply-To: <20040518063855.62e20610.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> Message-ID: <20040517200917.S90477@byx0rm.mr-clevver.com> References: <006801c43bd4$49362fd0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <20040518063855.62e20610.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New work on installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 03:13:55 -0000 On Tue, 18 May 2004, Robert Storey wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:00:37 -0500 > wrote: > > > Has there been any new work on the installer or planned? If not, I would like > > to help... What about graphical? > > If you're looking to improve FreeBSD's user-friendliness, more usefual than a > GUI installer would be a few network setup tools. To get some idea what I'm > talking about, take a look at Slackware's "netconfig" and "adsl-setup" tools. > These aren't GUI, just ncurses scripts, but very easy to use. When I was a FBSD > newbie, one of my most frustrating experiences was having to manually write and > modify /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. I think a lot of newbies get to > this point, spend a few frustrating days tearing their hair out, and then give > up and go back to Redhat or SUSE. > > A user-friendly GUI or ncurses script for configuring the new PF firewall would > no doubt win a few converts too. Take a look at Guarddog (a Linux tool for IP > tables) to get some idea. If you use sysinstall to configure the network it is very similar to Slackware's netconfig, except that it is faster and easier since it is all on once screen and will automatically probe for more information. I've never used dial-up under FreeBSD but there are ppp options in sysinstall as well so presumably it will configure that as well for you. Cheers, Viktor