From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Feb 16 07:17:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09343 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09322 Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-082.etinc.com (ppp-082.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA02788; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:19:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:19:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199602161519.KAA02788@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Louis A. Mamakos" From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Louis writes..... >On the other hand, your Internet gateway doesn't have to fsck when the >power fails and comes back again. It doesn't serve web pages, or run >SMTP.. it does actually route packets pretty well. You're missing the point...you're comparing a router to a host/router, and I'm comparing a card to a router box.. No....my card doesnt have any moving parts either. There are substantial performance and functional advantages to having a common code solution between router and server. What's really funny is that you contradict yourself in your next "argument" > >To each his own.. My PL50 works really well, and takes up less space >than the ZyXEL modem I used to use. It doesn't have moving parts, and >doesn't need an external CSU/DSU. My argument is to put a router INTO my server...your argument of putting the CSU into the router is similar, except that you almost always dont have a choice of which CSU/DSU to use with an integrated solution. If you dont care...then fine...but they're almost never as good or reliable as external ones. > >> >> A good rule of thumb: If you know un*x, use un*x....if you don't, use >> something else. >> > >Yes, it's true that if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything >looks like a nail. That's no excuse not to get the 'right' tool for >the job. I dont think that the "hammer" argument works here...theres no evidence that your solution is better or more appropriate than a unix solution, and much evidence that it is less flexible and lower performance (due to an added hop, at the minimum). From the talk about problems with the PLs, I'd say its a pretty risky choice. dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX