From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 13:32:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09320106566C; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f47.google.com (mail-qw0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C1E8FC14; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabj40 with SMTP id j40so6447477qab.13 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:32:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=X60VthMrZd8k7H9wEW/mvQFu33QUp7VjfAvllffzyXA=; b=uwi6kcO4iguoBqnbrQqTbfiVnQi9vlazghje2dxVlzVOg8UqKjjwvchNCTp0lrmxN5 xlqZzI1BsP5JaZEK+pvyEFcGKFsc0HkjM2MQ+F3IijCOY3YuUJPxQSfg1UM1H3BGbxaz WbV6yZ4wSV729ERU7W+GNnDMUqVmWhnIpffdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.182.196 with SMTP id cd4mr13357658qab.3.1321267334407; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.73.195 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:42:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111114092922.GA2164@hoeg.nl> References: <20111110123919.GF2164@hoeg.nl> <4EBC4B6E.4060607@FreeBSD.org> <20111111112821.GP2164@hoeg.nl> <4EBDC06F.6020907@FreeBSD.org> <20111112103918.GV2164@hoeg.nl> <4EBF0003.3060401@FreeBSD.org> <20111113091940.GX2164@hoeg.nl> <4EC04B65.4030801@FreeBSD.org> <20111114092922.GA2164@hoeg.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:42:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Ed Schouten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Doug Barton Subject: Re: The strangeness called `sbin' X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:32:10 -0000 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Ed Schouten wrote: > Hi Doug, > > * Doug Barton , 20111113 23:57: > > If we're going to talk about making a change that's actually worth > > making, let's just move everything into / and get rid of /usr > > altogether. It served its purpose back when it came into being, but with > > modern disk sizes and the (unfortunate) prevalence of the "one big /" > > layout model, it's time in the sun is long past. > > Now that I think of it, it may be possible to sort of combine this with > my approach in a way that it doesn't break POLA for existing users. What > if we leave everything in the tree alone, but only modify the code, so > that any new installations on empty directory structures use the > following symlinks: > > - /sbin -> /bin > - /usr/bin -> /bin > - /usr/games -> /bin > - /usr/lib -> /lib > - /usr/sbin -> /bin > ............................................. > > But now the question remains how we should change the default > partitioning. I think default installations place home directories in > /usr/home, with a symlink from /home. Should they now be placed in > /usr/local/home? > ............................................. > > -- > Ed Schouten > WWW: http://80386.nl/ > Is it not possible to use a symbolic link from /usr/home to /home and put /home into a separate partition or drive ? Mandriva Linux ( and other Linux distributions , mostly ) is using this separate partition and it is possible to completely install ( not upgrade ) a new version without losing /home by only specifying to mount the existing /home during new installation . Even it is asking whether /var will be re-installed or not . In FreeBSD , such a new ( default ) version installation from released *.iso CD/DVD is not possible without losing existing /usr/home . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk