From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 13:56:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D845716A4BF for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mizar.origin-it.net (mizar.origin-it.net [194.8.96.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6A543FE5 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from matar.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com (dehsfw3e.origin-it.net [194.8.96.68])h7RKu6IO087322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:56:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from dehhx004.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com (dehhx004.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com [161.90.164.40]) ESMTP id h7RKu5K7043144; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:56:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: by dehhx004.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:56:05 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Oldach, Helge" To: "'Lars Eggert'" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:56:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: hilman firmansyah Subject: RE: Gif IPTunnel networkA-to-networkB not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:56:21 -0000 > From: Lars Eggert [mailto:larse@ISI.EDU] > Sent: Mittwoch, 27. August 2003 17:45 > To: Oldach, Helge > Cc: hilman firmansyah; freebsd-net@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Gif IPTunnel networkA-to-networkB not work > Oldach, Helge wrote: > > You must have the networks connected (on the public side), but when > > using IPSec your gif tunnel won't really be used. It is just sort of > > a "placeholder" to get the routing correct. > > It is not a good idea to use gifs in parallel with IPsec tunnel mode., > to do this routing trick. Fully agreed. The point is that a lot of documents on the web advise to set up a gif tunnel in order to set up a IPSec tunnel. Which is essentially nonsense. Apparently the original poster fell into the same trap. Hence my clarification. Helge