From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 14 13:30:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08066 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:30:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08061 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29139; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:29:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA23942; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:29:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:29:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199808142029.OAA23942@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brett Glass Cc: Mike Smith , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 64-bit time_t In-Reply-To: <199808141756.LAA24900@lariat.lariat.org> References: <199808141041.KAA13457@word.smith.net.au> <199808141756.LAA24900@lariat.lariat.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >C is not "unsafe", it is "not-safe", meaning that you're responsible for > >your own security. In this it is no less "safe" than any other > >language as you are a fool if you take the "safety" of any other > >language on trust. > > Gee, by this reasoning a car without seat belts, a horn, or bumpers is > is really no less "safe" than any other car. After all, you're a fool if > you trust your car to be safe. You are. I can kill people if I'm not careful driving a car. The tool is the not the problem, the person who improperly wields the tool is. (ie; guns don't kill people, people kill people...) The reason for most of the safety precautions on tools today is because of how sue-crazy Americans are. You have to put disclaimers on things because people use lawn-mowers to mow their hedges and other such stupidity, and then when the mower falls and cuts of their fingers they succuessfully sue the manufacturer for not making it safe. It's really no more safe than it was, but it prevents the manufacturer from losing their shorts in a lawsuit. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message