From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 02:59:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6194C106564A for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ekerberos@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de (fmmailgate04.web.de [217.72.192.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92D28FC23 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ekerberos@web.de) Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BFB54FFA1E8 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:22:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.135.217.169] by freemailng2701.web.de with HTTP; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:22:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:22:51 +0200 Message-Id: <547967842@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sisantha Godawela-Ohle To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Precedence: fm-user Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX1/JdU6hB/gQq5QkVxAwryN4Sj3nQDGpNQLYDrLAX9i0+nxip lj+73Q0eQPMuSyMnA7nXuKoWrAFR+NOS6Utn+jqmIIxeEOWdck= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: freebsd-chat Digest, Vol 253, Issue 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:59:36 -0000 Hi all, i=B4m following this freeBSD chat for a long time and i also wish to submit = a question regarding a FreeBSD Version 7.0, which i installed yesterday. After logging in as root, i started with startx and Gnome and KDE3. >From there i wanted to configure Network, DNS etc., but it(System popup) = says, that i don=B4t have rights to configure as there is no permisions for = that;-( , although directly logged as ROOT! But this problem does not arises with the FreeBSD 6.2, which i=B4m running f= or a more than a year!!. What should do i do=3F I appreciate for an positive solution. Best Regards, Sisantha > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Gesendet: 30.03.08 14:00:44 > An: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Betreff: freebsd-chat Digest, Vol 253, Issue 7 >=20 > Send freebsd-chat mailing list submissions to > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-chat-request@freebsd.org >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-chat-owner@freebsd.org >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-chat digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: Newbie Question - about newbie user support (Passive PROFITS) > 2. Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating > System (Robert Joosten) > 3. Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating > System (N.J. Mann) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:37:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: Passive PROFITS > Subject: Re: Newbie Question - about newbie user support > To: Marian Hettwer > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <427339.2795.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 >=20 > --- Marian Hettwer wrote: >=20 > > Hi there, > >=20 > > since this is -chat, a reply won't hurt :) >=20 > Well as it was almost the weekend, we'll forgive you! > :) >=20 > > christopher schrieb: > > > My main suggestion about learning would be to > > > subscribe to user group mailing lists. They tend > > > not to be as high volume as freebsd-questions, and > > > I've really had a lot of luck with my main list, a > > > Tucson, AZ, USA, unix group. They have people of > > > all flavors on there, and it gives me access to > > > non-freebsd specific resources as well. I solve > > > a lot of FreeBSD issues by searching linux > > archives. > > > > > > =20 > > I do completely agree with the above statement :) > > My first subscription to a freebsd mailing list was=20 > > de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org > > One could say, this is the german version of > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > This mailing list proofed to be one of the best > > choices I ever did. > > During the years (since somewhat 1999=3F!) I learned a > > whole Unix flavor=20 > > related things. > > It happened from time to time that a freebsd related > > question drifted=20 > > of, as in, how can it be solved with other unix like > > operating systems. > > My main Unix know-how came from that list. > > And it still happens that I do read something on > > that mailinglist, where=20 > > I think "well, this could help me at work with those > > debian boxes" > > Well, since time passes by, it's usally more like > > "ah, this can be=20 > > achived by FreeBSD going that way" and "ah, this > > works in Solaris too"=20 > > and then "Oh damn, this is more complicated in > > linux..." ;-) > > Anyway, point is, subscribe to a local mailinglist. >=20 > Now done. Thanks for reiterating this advice. I > suppose your advice along with others has made he > realise my usual strategy of subbing to the 'top' few > that look like they might be one of the places to be, > hanging out a while, and then unsubbing from those > that are too high or too low, will work here too! >=20 > -chat > -questions > -hackers (maybe; but certainly likely after a while) > -uk.freebsd >=20 > Got it! :) >=20 >=20 > > It may be helpful :) > > And for the archives: Thanks to the guys at > > de-bsd-questions@=20 > > (especially Oliver Fromme and Bernd Walter). Very > > valuable information. > > Big plus of this german bsd mailing list. Nearly > > =5Fno=5F flamewars in those=20 > > years since 1999. > > I would guess, like 5 flamewars in 10 years=3F! That's > > not that common, eh=3F :) >=20 > I think this is why I was a bit reticent about posting > anywhere here. 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ISBN 0201549794 was the first, although with a slightly=20 > different name. >=20 > Regards, > Robert >=20 > PS: may I politely remind you of our mailinglist charters phrase: "No=20 > posting should be made to more than 2 mailing lists (..) =3F ;-) > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en=5FUS.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.htm= l#ERESOURCES-MAIL >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:53:43 +0000 > From: "N.J. Mann" > Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating > System > To: Robert Joosten > Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20080329195343.GA44731@oberon.njm.f2s.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > In message <20080329185215.GA4017@iphouse.com>, > Robert Joosten (robert@ml.erje.net) wrote: > > Hi Unga, > >=20 > > > Is there a 2nd edition coming soon=3F > >=20 > > Third iirc. 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