From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 2 21:52:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86CA7F7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 21:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCCD8FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 21:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.netplex.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id qA2LgvsS051551; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:42:57 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by DRAC access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]); Fri, 02 Nov 2012 17:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:42:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: Adam Strohl Subject: Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO In-Reply-To: <5093FD3D.3080201@ateamsystems.com> Message-ID: References: <5093F934.7050306@ose.nl> <5093FD3D.3080201@ateamsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Bas Smeelen , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:52:13 -0000 On Sat, 3 Nov 2012, Adam Strohl wrote: > On 11/2/2012 23:47, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> Hi >> >> Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new system >> from a 9.1-RC2 ISO? >> >> I admit I did not pay too much attention when installing a new system >> from an 9.1-RC2 ISO and found out when taking a snapshot with dump (dump >> -0Lauf) to clone the system. Other systems (9-STABLE, 9.1-RC2 and >> 9.1-RC3) have been upgraded from 8.X-RELEASE and earlier, so there are >> no journaled soft updates enabled, just soft updates, and well there >> dump with snapshot works just fine. >> >> Can SU+J be disabled for the 9.1-RELEASE or do you think this is not >> going to be a problem for users of FreeBSD? I will have to boot these >> two systems single user now to disable the soft updates journal, because >> I use dump + restore on live systems, not a problem for me, it is just >> an inconvenience. > > > I have to second this sentiment. Unless the dump/snapshot issue has been > resolved they journal should be turned off by default. +1 -- DE