From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 18:14:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9F616A417 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) Received: from n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (smtpout0138.sc1.he.tucows.com [64.97.136.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AC713C45B for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47030A3E0049AF1C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:14:51 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2, 0, 0, 74526d8e06f02b43, 7b4d0be2e2c143f3, kneel.pardoe@virgin.net, -, RULES_HIT:355:379:599:601:945:966:973:980:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1358:1359:1437:1513:1515:1516:1518:1519:1521:1534:1542:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2196:2199:2200:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2734:2828:2899:3027:3355:3421:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:4362:4385:5007:6117:6119:7652, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [64.97.206.40]) (Authenticated sender: kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) From: neal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:02:53 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <001301c82fe1$4e4263e0$6701a8c0@mobility> In-Reply-To: <001301c82fe1$4e4263e0$6701a8c0@mobility> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711261802.53776.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [OT] who wrote this X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:14:54 -0000 On Monday 26 November 2007, eBoundHost: Artur wrote: > >Lets also remember that history is written by the > > victors, which means they LIE! > >neal. > > Wow neal, that's very nice of you. =A0 What is? Surely this is not the first time you have heard=20 this said about history. > are you saying that=20 > hitler didn't do any of these things? =A0 What I was saying was contained in the post, there were no=20 words missing, it was all there, complete. > I'm not even going=20 > to respond to you here, just going to re-post your words > to show that there are still people like you out there... Oh, you took this personally as if it was an insult directed=20 at you. This is one of the problems when viewing with=20 combative mind set. > And as far as your sage to the moon quote, don't think > too much of your own sagedom, there is always someone > younger and smarter. =A0 Despite the failure of the 'message', it was honestly sent=20 *to* you not *at* you as you seem to think.=20 how about "we do not see the world as it is but as we are". > You would be better off being a=20 > little less "sagy" and a bit nicer. Thanks, but you are not in a position to determine how I=20 might be better or worse off. > Now to the rest of you who are for some reason turning > this into a Censorship issue. =A0It's not. =A0I'm asking to > replace the text on the HTML front page with a completely > unnecessary reference to hitler. =A0We're not talking about > pruning the quotes database for controversial speakers. > =A0having hitlers name there does nothing positive for the > project and polarizes the viewing audience because it > offends the vast majority of people, 99% of whom are not > going to spend an evening writing to a mailing list to > have the issue fixed. They won't think about the deep > philosophical reasons why this should be there in > principle. =A0They are going to read the page and think to > themselves that the freebsd community are a bunch of > jerks. No, that is what it says to *you*. You are not everyone=20 else. > There are far better ways to express the thought than by > simply saying "hitler quotes". =A0For instance it can be > replaced with "controversial persons" or something > similar. =A0 So it is about censorship. You want the name 'Hitler' erased=20 from existence. > He was not the only such person in history, so=20 > we should not be focusing only on him. > Best Regards, > > Artur