From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Apr 10 22:52:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EB95DA9AE for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 22:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [IPv6:2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "vtr.rulingia.com", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FHqyT48jwz4WxZ for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 22:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp239-208.static.internode.on.net [59.167.239.208]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 13AMqHFO014117 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 08:52:23 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 vtr.rulingia.com 13AMqHFO014117 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 13AMqBJr047135 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 08:52:11 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 13AMqBdZ047134 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 08:52:11 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 08:52:11 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecation of portsnap (was: Proposed ports git transition schedule) Message-ID: References: <20210326092245.0689a732@raksha.tavi.co.uk> <20210326130417.agarfdiuttp5l3vw@nexus.home.palmen-it.de> <20210326142711.4cf61b0e@raksha.tavi.co.uk> <20210326183003.uegcte2aqi7fawuy@nexus.home.palmen-it.de> <20210401101908.vrdkx4kphfjm2dau@nexus.home.palmen-it.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mXVyRmPaFuI+V8zM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210401101908.vrdkx4kphfjm2dau@nexus.home.palmen-it.de> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FHqyT48jwz4WxZ X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rulingia.com:s=default]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[peter]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rulingia.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rulingia.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.717]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5800::/38, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 22:52:34 -0000 --mXVyRmPaFuI+V8zM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2021-Apr-01 12:19:08 +0200, Felix Palmen wrote: >* Christoph Moench-Tegeder [20210326 19:45]: >> ## Felix Palmen (felix@palmen-it.de): >>=20 >> > I'd assume (someone may correct me) that portsnap will still be >> > supported, >>=20 >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-August/119098.html > >Is this finally decided, and is there a timeline? Right now, it seems >portsnap is still built by default on releng/13.0. Following the SVN to GIT migration, portsnap is now the only practical way to use ports on a low-memory system. I've done some experiments and standard git has a 2GB working set to checkout a ports tree. gitup reached a 5GB working set size before I gave up. Typical small VPSs are around the 1GB RAM size and moving to something that can support 2GB or 5GB processes is a big price jump. --=20 Peter Jeremy --mXVyRmPaFuI+V8zM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAmByLBVfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzRzIA/9ErgHn4HdzzEvWlykx1LG/Cdkuiohy13ZSEI41ea3UeR8SfjQ60jU6KSm DpZ0V+YtFZp8/akiAo3X4FwpxCd6HM0Q1C78Ru2xAcaSn5A/sGCZ70L2StaQ95E9 NBfAmSIwiGh6+U6mdsZm8etStulb1p2kU36y+mKI19khOIJoQVA5oMRHmHnycXfO PzAMEdUjnALQGocO+q1/MdEyrPMoaVqXeyrChB7sgIMve0nWhkK9CeYnroejS8Nn mA+vXYMHI1eAODrvm4JVN3T6pC1WuM8R3zNE2W9OOuC5EkMPQkylOD4UkuxM21B5 NafiHdiIf+Bg7BEmWR6OB4IXxL++kZnUqCKAHeF7GypWOdSTmBCttM7XZ6iUpKC4 89FDjaRDhKun5+l0MhDpsLlDAbR3jaipvhvhtKk8sYDsYlJ8k+iKGlamutQMvtPz BFVYRQFphq8jUffM1n2jJtGQY/x8KlY5fOYUVKvT730gKrz7lLzr+4k0cYtpamfo ki1Hp1817lmHJ6xIqzc+l0fvFKlBC4vk55foXaD+qSceMw2z35XKviMFi4qgFwuA ruOmIMxqBNjZgo+8Ups94ey5bQ8X44ZURwqwmy1pXKdhyiFqs63nv0n+RQE8cpWg 4tWMj44ioQjMeZYtQZPRMRuOkB9DAcurVw4qwm/YLo8vNveqgTM= =fOSN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mXVyRmPaFuI+V8zM--