From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 14:15:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6271065672 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from mail.arcadebsd.org (sd-16356.dedibox.fr [88.191.88.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203E18FC12 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (home.elbarto.org [82.229.222.193]) (Authenticated sender: elbarto) by mail.arcadebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1BBA534183; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:15:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:14:28 +0100 From: ElBarto User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick Brashear References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:25 -0000 Derrick Brashear wrote: > > > So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at > two different place ? Seems ugly to me. > > > Sounds subjective to me :) > What do you propose for the path of the redundant binaries ? > > As I said vos and bos are useless to an user so they should be in > the server port. > > > Repeating yourself doesn't make me more likely to agree. > > I suppose it depends how atuned to afs the user is but vos will check > quotas where ACLs do not permit, (think help desk staffed by non > admins) and bos can be used to verify that a server is unreachable > because, say, it crashed, or what restart times are. (same idea) > > As a student I used them for those purposes uncompensated. fs listquota is not enough for you ? (it's a real question, not ironic) I kind of disagree for splitting the openafs ports cause as you say some commands are useful (more or less) for both client and server part, but as it seems that it's going to be that way, I want the port to be clean and with no redundancy. The thing is you can't use the some vos command without a client (vos dump, restore etc ...) but those commands are not intend to users. Quoting the openafs administration reference : The commands in the vos command suite are the administrative interface to the Volume Server and Volume Location (VL) Server. System administrators use vos commands to create, move, delete, replicate, back up and examine volumes, among other operations. But I think you know that but know you see my point. -- Emmanuel Vadot elbarto@arcadebsd.org