From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Dec 21 10:23:33 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 21 10:23:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D7837B400 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eBLIMm778734; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:22:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200012211822.eBLIMm778734@earth.backplane.com> To: Dennis Cc: marcov@stack.nl (Marco van de Voort), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001220192150.01f42450@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20001221120837.022ab0a0@mail.etinc.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :If you want freebsd to remain a cult OS for hackers you are correct. : FreeBSD hasn't been a cult OS in a very long time, Dennis. You need to open your eyes a little more. The OSS world has changed in the last few years. :Reverse engineering is a myth. The result is so inferior to high-level :language source code as to not be a concern, plus its illegal so it cant be :marketed. Reverse engineering is very legal, and it is hardly a myth, nor is the result necessarily inferior. What is inferior are the thousands of commercial products that don't follow their own specs and the hundreds of chipsets that contain serious hardware bugs that the manufacturers don't bother to fix that we have to add hacks to support. What you are doing is using a few bad apples as an excuse to try to bulldoze the orchard. You shouldn't be surprised when people scoff at the attempt. Nobody is beholden to you... serious commercial enterprises which use FreeBSD also support its development and stay on top of the areas which they feel are important to them. Take Yahoo for example. If you are serious about FreeBSD and you want things handed to you on a platter, then the problem here is your own attitude. There is a cost to technology that goes far beyond the number of dollars you ring up on the register. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message