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Date:      Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:44:28 +0200
From:      Andre Oppermann <oppermann@pipeline.ch>
To:        Harti Brandt <brandt@fokus.gmd.de>
Cc:        Petr Holub <hopet@ics.muni.cz>, net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 32 bit couters in netstat
Message-ID:  <3D7CCFEC.8719520F@pipeline.ch>
References:  <20020909181135.K30835-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de>

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Harti Brandt wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Andre Oppermann wrote:
> 
> AO>Harti Brandt wrote:
> AO>>
> AO>> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Petr Holub wrote:
> AO>>
> AO>> PH>> > I've just found that netstat in FreeBSD 4.4 has just 32 bit couters
> AO>> PH>> > (compared to 64 bit counters in NetBSD), at least for Ibytes and Obytes.
> AO>> PH>> > Is there any improvement in this respect in -STABLE or in -CURRENT?
> AO>> PH>>
> AO>> PH>> No because certain people argue that having a 64 bit counter slows
> AO>> PH>> down the machine to the level of a 386SX-16 and who needs large
> AO>> PH>> counters anyway...
> AO>> PH>
> AO>> PH>I don't think NetBSD is slow that way ;o))).
> AO>>
> AO>> If you search the archives you will find the arguments. As far as I
> AO>> remember the problem is to do the counter update atomically correct.
> AO>
> AO>Yes. Doing a 64 bit atomically add even on UP machines takes a couple
> AO>a CPU cycles more. But does that matter with 2.8GHz machines?
> 
> Not everyone has the money to buy a new machine each time one comes out.
> 
> It may matter for people having a 486 in the corner to do their local
> routing. It may also matter for people that never look at their counters.

The moment you enable ipfw you get 64bit ipfw packet|byte counters
anyway... one more doesn't matter at all.

> But as I said already, refer to the archives.

Make it a macro so everone can choose what fits best:

 if < I586
   make32bitcounters
 else
   make64bitaotmiccounters


-- 
Andre

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