From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 2 04:44:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C410216A4DA; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 04:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD8F13C45B; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 04:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l724gHjl048830; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:42:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20070801.224225.-894585243.imp@bsdimp.com> To: randy@psg.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <18097.4424.855875.392421@roam.psg.com> References: <20070801110727.GC59008@menantico.com> <46B0EDEA.8050608@FreeBSD.org> <18097.4424.855875.392421@roam.psg.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:42:18 -0600 (MDT) Cc: dougb@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: default dns config change causing major poolpah X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 04:44:11 -0000 In message: <18097.4424.855875.392421@roam.psg.com> Randy Bush writes: : >> However, I thought it was a really, really, terrible idea, : > You're entitled to your opinion. If you take a look at the thread on : > the dns-operations list you'll see that there are a lot of really : > smart people lined up on both sides of this argument. : : which, to some of us, would have been a clue not to make a change : with no discussion I tend to agree. In general in FreeBSD, when there's no consensus for a change, then the change doesn't happen. When there is a change that causes contention, typically, it is backed out until consensus can be reached. I'm not sure what the right thing to do here is, but when I see Paul Vixie say a change is bad, I tend to think long and hard about why I think it is right. Warner