From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 21:45:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5781D57 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600BD79D for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U9jNX-0006Y3-7r; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:45:04 +0100 Received: from h253044.upc-h.chello.nl ([62.194.253.44] helo=pinky) by smtp.greenhost.nl with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9jNX-00012H-6y; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:45:03 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, =?utf-8?B?UmFkaW8gbcWCb2R5Y2ggYmFuZHl0w7N3?= Subject: Re: Some filesystem thoughts References: <5129F16A.6020505@o2.pl> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:45:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Ronald Klop" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5129F16A.6020505@o2.pl> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: 0.8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Scan-Signature: ba572e8a3bde05b4b19613c12a9e49fc X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:45:13 -0000 On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:54:34 +0100, Radio młodych bandytów wrote: > "Ronald Klop" wrote: >> Creative ideas. >> Part of what you want is in fusefs (mounting of files to edit their >> content). > Mhm. Could you give some link or details in another form? Just google for 'fusefs'. Filesystems based on FUSE: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=FileSystems > And part is implemented in e.g. KDE (integrated support for >> various file types in fulltext search and tagging of files/metadata, >> etc.). > Well, I view it as not much different from implementing a TC / MC / VIM > plugin. Anybody can benefit, but they have to implement the right API > (And there are several programs that use TC plugins). > It's interesting as a way of getting some of these benefits though. > >> The chances of having all these complex libraries integrated in the >> FreeBSD OS are close to zero I presume. But I am not in a position to >> decide about that. > Frankly, I haven't expected anything different. My thoughts did jump to > implementation issues and I see them numerous, but I think the idea > itself is not sufficiently mature, so I decided to skip them in the > first post. > >> I think you can't expect the OS to serve everybody's detailed wishes. > I don't expect it. I just wanted to discuss an idea that seemed to have > a potential. >> The OS serves files and user programs know what to do with them. > Unfortunately, far too often programs don't know it. Files are often not > simple and a single program is unable to deal with them. The only way to > deal with such cases ATM that I see is to manually remove layers > obfuscating the meaningful sources. In some way, it resembles piping > data through multiple programs, except that pipes transport bytes, not > files and therefore the transformation has to be performed step by step. Well. It is probably me, but I don't really get what you're trying to say here. Regards, Ronald.