From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 20:49:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FCF16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873DC13C491 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1QKn8Jf039095; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:49:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l1QKn7Px039092; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:49:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:49:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> Message-ID: <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:49:08 -0000 > the extra features of on exchange server some place (shared calendars etc), > getting users to move away from Outhouse is a major security improvement and > reduces most of the email tech support calls. i provide services for users, including mail services with IMAP access. and i often help users of my services how to configure their client programs (which is often not my duty) for free. but i don't help solving problems that people willingly create, FOR EXAMPLE by using Outlook for mail. other examples are using internet explorer, others are installing some "magic firewalls" and "feeling secure" instead of just stopping all windows network services and then running few really needed (often none). Other is using POP3 instead of IMAP, so no e-mails are kept on server side (and backed up by me daily) and then but thats problems they are willingly creating, and chance to get some cash providing data recovery services etc... people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry