From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 22 20:23:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5604E16A4BF for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao05.cox.net (lakemtao05.cox.net [68.1.17.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA1443FEC for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from dredster ([68.12.67.176]) by lakemtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20030923032302.ELFY10592.lakemtao05.cox.net@dredster> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:23:02 -0400 Message-ID: <011f01c38182$022f6d20$0201a8c0@dredster> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:22:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: FreeBSD,Linux and any other os besides Microsoft. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 03:23:08 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ajax Munroe" To: Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: FreeBSD,Linux and any other os besides Microsoft. > Hello, > > I dont have a question but I would like to make a statement. I downloaded Freebsd version 5.0 release > and unpacked it in great anticipation. I made a bootable CD (the best I could, It's not as easy as making > a bootable windows CD) put the cd in my rom and found that BSD is not for me. Look, Im not trying > to put BSD down or anything, I would love to have it on my computer fully working so that I could > use something other than Windows! Im by no means bored with Windows, I find new and exciting > things out with it all the time.I feel that im pretty literate when it comes to computers, which brings > me to this: You people have to make a product that is just slightly more user friendly.Cant you > think of a way to auto-mount your os like windows? Setting up your os is like trying to work your > way through a jigsaw puzzle.(Windows even partitions your drive for you) If someone expects to > challenge the makers of Windows they are going to have to come up with a user friendly system > like Windows where you have an easy command format instead of what your trying to do. I mean > come on, first you have to figure out what to partition the drive in because you dont explain any > of this, then you have to mount everything,which is beyond the average users comprehension, > then you have to figure out commands to pass along to the kernel..etc...etc...etc. With Windows > all you do is stick in the disk and it's all pretty straight forward from there on out. > > > Please, if you could just tell me of one of your systems thats a little more user friendly I would > love to use it, and tell all my friends about it too so that they can spread the word about the new > operating system thats fun and easy to use. > > > Your Friend; > > AJAX > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" If you download the iso image and burn it, it turns out as a bootable cd. As for the partitions, there is an option to autosize in the bottom menu (unless it's been removed in 5.x). Even with Windows and multiple drives, you have to tell it how large you want your partitions to be. FreeBSD is no different in this respect. For most users, 2 slices are all that is necessary. Root "/" and "swap". Swap is generally 2 x the amount of system ram, the same as with Windows if you specify it and not allow Windows to control it. I will admit, FreeBSD isn't for everyone, and you need to understand it's basic function and be willing to learn more than you know when you start. I've ran Solaris, OpenBSD, NetBSD, work with AIX, Slackware Linux, Redhat Linux and a few others. I've always come back to FreeBSD because of it's simplicity in installation and ease of system configuration. Many of the other OS's that I've installed in my lifetime require you to know the actual disk geometry in order to partition it properly, or at least when I installed them they did. Meaning, if you didn't have the disk in your hands, you had to tear the system down to get the info. I'm not meaning to be insulting, but you'll probably find that anything other than Windows will require a bit of study before you attempt to install it. It's the nature of the beast. If you want to run a Windows server, it will cost you. If you want to run exchange as a mail service, that will be an additional cost. If you want to run a good quality, economical firewall for your network, that cost you. You want to run mssql, that will also cost you. These items are either included with the open source OS's or available as an addon and usually at no additional cost. It just depends on which way you're willing to go. In the end, you'll do one of two things, 1) spend some time with the available documentation and save yourself some money, or 2) spend that money on the necessary Windows addons to do the same job. Everyone that is in this list has made the same decision or is in the process of making that decision. The outcomes will vary depending on the individual and their needs and abilities. -- Micheal Patterson Network Administration Cancer Care Network