From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 20 18:59:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BE11065676 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from personrp@UPMC.EDU) Received: from msxedgnsprd01.gw.upmc.edu (msxedgnsprd01.gw.upmc.edu [128.147.248.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01538FC24 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from msxhcsnsprd02.acct.upmchs.net (128.147.28.1) by msxedgnsprd01.gw.upmc.edu (128.147.248.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.201.1; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:47:37 -0500 Received: from msxmbxnsprd18.acct.upmchs.net ([fe80:0000:0000:0000:e138:c1a9:63.146.207.68]) by msxhcsnsprd02.acct.upmchs.net ([10.25.36.27]) with mapi; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:47:45 -0500 From: "Person, Roderick" To: spellberg_robert , "freebsd-chat@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:47:44 -0500 Thread-Topic: lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request Thread-Index: AcpqDr3OASagD4c/RdKD0RSlsQNpswAAFejQ Message-ID: <1AE59099C6D80E41BEB64A1768AFB4EA30ED5BAF@msxmbxnsprd18.acct.upmchs.net> References: <200911200921.nAK9LKpf063202@lurza.secnetix.de> <4B06DD70.8030308@emailrob.com> In-Reply-To: <4B06DD70.8030308@emailrob.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:08:40 +0000 Cc: Subject: RE: lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:59:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.o= rg] > > > > You don't have to do anything. >=20 > [ slow burn, then, sigh ] that's the problem with the world, today. > when people don't --have-- to do anything, people don't --learn_how-- to = do > anything. > oops, i digress. >=20 >=20 >=20 > > You should also note that the refresh rate is pretty much > > irrelevant for LCD displays. While 85 Hz did make sense > > for CRT monitors in order to avoid flickering, that's not > > necessary with LCD monitors. They won't flicker with > > 60 Hz which is a very common refresh rate for LCD. >=20 > this is useful to know. > while i --have-- seen some that claim a f_vert up to 85_cps, > 75 seems to be a popular top_end. >=20 You could get an LCD monitor that only has the 15 pin connection, then you = can choose refresh rate and play with modelines. At least on the Viewsonic LCD = I have which is 5 years old I had to do that to get it working. That is if you rea= lly want to keep doing such things. =20 > > My recommendation is to go to a shop, look at several > > monitors and take the one you like best, irrespective > > of the manufacturer. Do *NOT* buy an LCD display that > > you haven't seen with your own eyes before. I'm serious. >=20 > holy moses !!! >=20 > you are reinforcing my long_held belief that lcd is a downgrade from crt. >=20 >=20 > > By the way, back in the CRT days, my favourite was EIZO. >=20 > not familiar, but, i've heard the name. > maybe, i saw some in grad_school. > i --know-- i saw the name on a retailer's web_site, yesterday. >=20 > > I disliked Sony. >=20 > freedom_of_choice is good [ that'll get the secret_police after me ]. >=20 I'll second you belief that LCD are worse than CRTs for the most part. I re= ally like the Apple LCD monitors but these are in the high end range of LCD moni= tors once you start up there the picture quality and resolutions start to match = that of CRTs,=20 in my opinion. The only thing I don't miss from my CRTs is the high pitch h= um and reduced desk space. For the record my favorite CRTs were from SGI . The two I had were manufact= ured by LG, so my second LCD was an LG for this reason. It is definitely better than th= e Viewsonic, but=20 still not as good picture wise as the CRTs, IMO. Rod Person=20 Sr. Programmer=20 (412)454-2616=20 http://www.ccbh.com=20 "An educator never says what he himself thinks, but only that which he thin= ks it is good for those whom he is educating to hear."-Nietzsche