From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 30 09:50:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D77216A4CF; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:50:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obh.snafu.de (obh.snafu.de [213.73.92.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC4443D48; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:50:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from ob by obh.snafu.de with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CvBig-000LYN-7O; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:50:14 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:50:14 +0100 From: Oliver Brandmueller To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050130095013.GA82144@e-Gitt.NET> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Anton Berezin , perl@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20050129202425.GA56998@heechee.tobez.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050129202425.GA56998@heechee.tobez.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Oliver Brandmueller cc: perl@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org cc: Anton Berezin Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:50:22 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 09:24:25PM +0100, Anton Berezin wrote: > Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I > plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming > upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This > will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X and FreeBSD CURRENT; the existing > pollution of /usr/bin will still be performed for older versions of > FreeBSD, if requested via use.perl script. >=20 > In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in > order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to > #! /usr/local/bin/perl. >=20 > CORRECT perl-dependant ports should not be affected. >=20 > In order to keep pkg-install simple, no old symlink chasing and removal > will be done, although the detailed instructions will be posted in > ports/UPDATING and in pkg-message for the ports. At least for -STABLE I see a big impact. I see no useful gain in that step anyway; I would just have to create=20 the link on tens of machines by hand. If it turns out, that this will be the way to (which the discussion=20 doesn't suggest), I would like to see something like this: - Don't change the behaviour on -STABLE (4.x, 5.x), but make an OPTION available, that would turn on the "new" behaviour. - For -CURRENT (6.x and beyond), if the change comes, make an OPTION available, to turn on the "old" behaviour. Something like "make PERL_POLLUTES_BASE=3Dyes install clean" would just be= =20 fine. There are many good reasons, to have /usr/bin/perl available at=20 just that place. Be it good style or not, the reality ist, that a lot of=20 third party stuff depends on exactly that. - Oliver --=20 | Oliver Brandmueller | Offenbacher Str. 1 | Germany D-14197 Berlin | | Fon +49-172-3130856 | Fax +49-172-3145027 | WWW: http://the.addict.de/ | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung aller enthaltenen Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB/K3ViqtMdzjafykRArt/AJsH3ei2w+eKAVpCTM+MbTMoMGFtWQCeKcxT kjbJug+itdISOmjO+f2o0Es= =NaM0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB--