From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 07:19:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA17C16A403 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2145843CB2 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:17:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1428484uge for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:18:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BV1yceEkuYZXy0vXMgNSEKxmVZyaUREek1J9hF76BdF723Kma8P11Tk19wkJIYGdeYcmrByC8YeDM8tz2ZS/ZOybmg1kyQuv5JbMlrZ3/nEsQnkeLq9opfKagJ6BAGsdOJMl/+uzcsZ2Ubjqd+2t7ZhiQYG/SaHBWjIWztIkseQ= Received: by 10.67.19.17 with SMTP id w17mr11218099ugi.1165907916053; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.10.4 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:18:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:18:35 -0600 From: "Eric Kjeldergaard" To: "Renegade Penguin" In-Reply-To: <457E55E1.7090100@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <457E55E1.7090100@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: skype and other *phones X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:19:07 -0000 On 12/12/06, Renegade Penguin wrote: > > > > Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: > > > > If you are open to suggestions on other phone systems, I have been very > > much enjoying my gizmo account. (gizmoproject.com) I generally use > > ekiga > > to connect to it, but the benefit of gizmo is that it uses the > > standard SIP > > protocol for accessing the service. Further, the rates are quite > > good. For > > free it gives services like incoming phone calls, voice mail, and free > > SIP<->SIP calls. For a $.01/minute (for US numbers) fee it gives > > outgoing > > to-landline calls. Don't mean to sound like an advertisement, I just > > love > > open standards being used. > > > > Eric Kjeldergaard > > > Yes, but the gizmoproject is particularly onerous. Look at the EULA: > > http://www.gizmoproject.com/gizmo-end-user.html > > Michael Robertson is the head of that project, IIRC. Fairly nasty EULA > for using such "open" terms. Can't even redistribute the software. > > Pity. As a bit of clarification, I'd like to note that I make no endorsement of the gizmo _software_ which this EULA regards. It is instead that the service with its SIP standard implementation that I enjoy. I was initially a bit upset that their software was not open source, but as the major alternative (skype) is both closed protocal and closed source, I choose the lesser of two weevils. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised.