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[24.63.226.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h6sm28236244qap.2.2012.01.04.15.49.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:49:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:49:10 -0500 From: Alexander Kabaev To: Message-ID: <20120104184910.0d604240@kan.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20120104223158.911B11065678@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20120104223158.911B11065678@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/E950_Ap3Vq1E8qCyz2buUn_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Adrian Chadd , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , Joe Holden , Larabel , Michael@FreeBSD.ORG, Current FreeBSD , Arnaud Lacombe Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:30:05 -0000 --Sig_/E950_Ap3Vq1E8qCyz2buUn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:31:55 -0800 wrote: > Thanks for the comment Arnaud. For comparative benchmarking > on [1]Phoronix.com, Michael inva configuration 'in the way the > developers or production'. This is by rule. However, i poor > scores on be 'it should be tuned, is configured for a diffe The > response from us to this comes in two forms. &nb 1) If it is the > wrong workload for the platform, do a public pos explaining and > analysing the results. Highlighting the rationale fo r the > concious reduction in performance (ie: journaling filesystems with > ba filesystem integrity 2) If tuning can have a material impact > on the results, post a t uning guide with step by step and > rationale. Ie: educate the communit Michael and I have had many > discussions with vendors an on this. In almost all cases, the > vendor has either cha default configuration or accepted the results > as valid. As guide, Micha comparison. To dat offer. In part, > thi public, but that is more of a result of a one sided d party > external to a particular community (with a healthy tou > journalisticly pumped compare & contrast). For the FreeBSD > community, who else outside of the FreeBSD community actually runs > public c Matthew Not really related to the discussion on hand, but the above about the most unreadable email I am yet to read on the public mailing list. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/E950_Ap3Vq1E8qCyz2buUn_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFPBOV6Q6z1jMm+XZYRAn7AAKDDqfIxM5+mvV3YaP5WyZ7e0ed09QCgzKBU P1N6ba6nwNiQNjP2lDWmJQI= =05rk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/E950_Ap3Vq1E8qCyz2buUn_--