From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 11 22:16:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D817037B718 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:16:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14363; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:15:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010311230800.00e19bd0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:15:47 -0700 To: Mike Meyer From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15020.26478.596410.161510@guru.mired.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010311193801.0441d3c0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010306174618.N32515@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311193801.0441d3c0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:06 PM 3/11/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: >Not throwing out the baby with the bath water is only useful if you >know what the baby is. The "baby" is the concept of copyright. >The reason the monopoly exists is to encourage >creators to publish, yet still allow them to be compensated for their >work. The "baby" isn't copyright per se - it's compensating creators >to encourage them to publish. Nope. Copyright isn't compensation in and of itself. It merely gives the author the right to demand compensation IF people use it. If his work is not appealing or valuable, and no one uses it, he gets nothing. >Note that *publishing* is the critical issue here. It's clearly >possible to make money creating things without copyright laws, as >performers and programmers do so on a regular basis. Some even make a >living doing that way. However, those people either don't publish, or >don't expect to make money publishing. Copyright applies to far more than just publishing. For example, it also applies to public performance for profit, etc. >I have no idea what might replace copyright, and I'm sure that any >such change will cause economic dislocation - probably of a serious >nature. The existence of computers has been doing that since they >became commercially available, including the shameful way publishers >are attempting to destroy fair use. I think that unbridled theft of copyrighted material is shameful too. And, ironically, while users and content distributors fight, the artist is caught in the crossfire. As I said near the beginning of this thread, we need to broker a new peace -- not instigate or escalate a war. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message