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Date:      Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:13:43 +0100
From:      Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl>
To:        Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Adam Strohl <adams-freebsd@ateamsystems.com>
Subject:   Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO
Message-ID:  <50944597.9090709@ose.nl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1211021742410.15219@sea.ntplx.net>
References:  <5093F934.7050306@ose.nl> <5093FD3D.3080201@ateamsystems.com> <Pine.GSO.4.64.1211021742410.15219@sea.ntplx.net>

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On 11/02/2012 10=3A42 PM=2C Daniel Eischen wrote=3A
=3E On Sat=2C 3 Nov 2012=2C Adam Strohl wrote=3A
=3E
=3E=3E On 11/2/2012 23=3A47=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A
=3E=3E=3E Hi
=3E=3E=3E
=3E=3E=3E Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new=
 system
=3E=3E=3E from a 9=2E1-RC2 ISO=3F
=3E=3E=3E
=3E=3E=3E I admit I did not pay too much attention when installing a new sy=
stem
=3E=3E=3E from an 9=2E1-RC2 ISO and found out when taking a snapshot with d=
ump=20
=3E=3E=3E =28dump
=3E=3E=3E -0Lauf=29 to clone the system=2E Other systems =289-STABLE=2C 9=
=2E1-RC2 and
=3E=3E=3E 9=2E1-RC3=29 have been upgraded from 8=2EX-RELEASE and earlier=2C=
 so there are
=3E=3E=3E no journaled soft updates enabled=2C just soft updates=2C and wel=
l there
=3E=3E=3E dump with snapshot works just fine=2E
=3E=3E=3E
=3E=3E=3E Can SU+J be disabled for the 9=2E1-RELEASE or do you think this i=
s not
=3E=3E=3E going to be a problem for users of FreeBSD=3F I will have to boot=
 these
=3E=3E=3E two systems single user now to disable the soft updates journal=
=2C=20
=3E=3E=3E because
=3E=3E=3E I use dump + restore on live systems=2C not a problem for me=2C i=
t is just
=3E=3E=3E an inconvenience=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E I have to second this sentiment=2E  Unless the dump/snapshot issue h=
as=20
=3E=3E been resolved they journal should be turned off by default=2E
=3E
=3E +1
=3E
I have submitted a PR with patch=2C see how it goes
Cheers



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