From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 2 22:13:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E51F9A; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 22:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD058FC14; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 22:13:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)); Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:13:44 +0100 Message-ID: <50944597.9090709@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:13:43 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121028 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Eischen Subject: Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO References: <5093F934.7050306@ose.nl> <5093FD3D.3080201@ateamsystems.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Adam Strohl X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:13:49 -0000 On 11/02/2012 10=3A42 PM=2C Daniel Eischen wrote=3A =3E On Sat=2C 3 Nov 2012=2C Adam Strohl wrote=3A =3E =3E=3E On 11/2/2012 23=3A47=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E Hi =3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E Why are journaled soft updates the default when installing a new= system =3E=3E=3E from a 9=2E1-RC2 ISO=3F =3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E I admit I did not pay too much attention when installing a new sy= stem =3E=3E=3E from an 9=2E1-RC2 ISO and found out when taking a snapshot with d= ump=20 =3E=3E=3E =28dump =3E=3E=3E -0Lauf=29 to clone the system=2E Other systems =289-STABLE=2C 9= =2E1-RC2 and =3E=3E=3E 9=2E1-RC3=29 have been upgraded from 8=2EX-RELEASE and earlier=2C= so there are =3E=3E=3E no journaled soft updates enabled=2C just soft updates=2C and wel= l there =3E=3E=3E dump with snapshot works just fine=2E =3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E Can SU+J be disabled for the 9=2E1-RELEASE or do you think this i= s not =3E=3E=3E going to be a problem for users of FreeBSD=3F I will have to boot= these =3E=3E=3E two systems single user now to disable the soft updates journal= =2C=20 =3E=3E=3E because =3E=3E=3E I use dump + restore on live systems=2C not a problem for me=2C i= t is just =3E=3E=3E an inconvenience=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E =3E=3E I have to second this sentiment=2E Unless the dump/snapshot issue h= as=20 =3E=3E been resolved they journal should be turned off by default=2E =3E =3E +1 =3E I have submitted a PR with patch=2C see how it goes Cheers This e-mail message=2C including any attachment=28s=29=2C is intended solel= y for the addressee or addressees=2E Any views or opinions presented herein= are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of O= SE=2E If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return t= his e-mail message and the attachment=28s=29 to the sender and delete and d= estroy all copies=2E