From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 23 12: 2:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9310237B400; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF86843E72; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g7NJ2ScC042066; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:02:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id g7NJ2Sb6042065; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:02:28 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Eric Anderson Cc: Marc Fonvieille , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Improved searching for FreeBSD.org web site Message-ID: <20020823150228.A41991@blackhelicopters.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020822220010.00ab2540@pop.atomz.com> <20020823073410.B39333@blackhelicopters.org> <3D663073.40604@centtech.com> <20020823184955.A1454@marduk.blackend.org> <3D667CC6.4070908@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3D667CC6.4070908@centtech.com>; from anderson@centtech.com on Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 01:19:50PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 01:19:50PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > it. I don't care if anyone uses it, but I do care if this type of thing happens > to other FreeBSD related projects. I'm all about feeding those projects in any > way I can, and just wish there was a little more @freebsd.org (official) > standing behind new projects. Even if only 10% actually work out to be valid > and worthy projects, that's still 10%, and I think many get very discouraged > when they fall through the cracks. You can't get rid of me that easily though :). Eric, First of all, glad to hear that we didn't scare you off. :) Second: anyone expecting "official @FreeBSD.org" support is going to be disappointed. As far as the doc proj goes, we're it. I'm sending this from my @FreeBSD.org address, so consider this official. Eric, I haven't evaluated your search engine code, so don't take any of the below personally; this is a general overview, from my POV. I think what we'd need to see to make a change on our search engine is a "design document" of some sort. What problems do we have, and what problems does your new search engine solve? I don't pretend to be qualified to judge this, mind you... I'm an author, not a programmer. I do know "Sucks" when I see it, though, and our current search engine has it in buckets! In any replacement, we need to know that it's "better enough" to make a change worthwhile. That means we need some sort of qualitative and quantitative analysis of where we stand versus the new proposal. Sadly, saying "This new model has less Suckage" isn't enough to get a change made. Saying how it sucks less is necessary to overcome the inertia of sticking with what we have. I'm out of town for a few days, so I'll leave folks with that. Upon my return, I expect that one of our other @FreeBSD.org folks will have dealt wiht atomz, someone will have documented the deficiencies in our current search system, and World Peace 1.0-RELEASE will be tagged. If not, well, then I guess I'll have to do it in my Copious Free Time. :) ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message