From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 9 14:20:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD23EBE1; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ve0-f177.google.com (mail-ve0-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2DBDBB; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id jw11so6497353veb.36 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=aimKbGORV55wLLvtC9KIWcPVlRpcaMUudBRRiOdqNto=; b=yWVe3Bcci21+tgY0Zlh9V6rN5YGYVK9ZBSDzOWyhv6V8VmJyPPM3QsipBpFJ3hkZ2u KGGx8f4Ml7+0PeDEg4OsxiYzsyoGv/Qa02fpxb4MN3m308PoROOv6HQh0Nc8Dw2ZlIh/ JUnQVn4tfp6eZh0HQ7c5KllWDGtXh+95PyE+GzKybpRD4O3S7mfEsHnc1iCzzvLCTgPU cGFcuUf3+1XLoUGm676dvArlnep6F5M7tpx+Myi4ZqhFxaIE/lM6BN2Luc98woHuS7Mr iDWM+zt3Ui6sHd1eVMuB97YFohmlAKvbI2r8jaERPobz09HupGpeHyX4DfAsI65PVTSK dT8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.143.116 with SMTP id sd20mr19449532veb.39.1365517249648; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.61.11 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51622F44.3050604@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: David Demelier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Robert Simmons , Kimmo Paasiala , Bryan Drewery , Kevin Oberman , freebsd-ports , Chris Rees X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:20:50 -0000 > Ports are an integral part of the OS, and base should be minimal. > > > > For me, the only thing that should go to base is svnup. > > > +1 this, it is a real headache to not be able to svn up, without first installing a bunch of stuff via ports... I Love the idea of having a minimal system... i think sendmail, ssh, openssl, pf, and maybe even gcc(now that clang is default) should somehow go in ports... but i do think that the package files should be always kept up to date, and delivered on the install media, or bootstrapped in some way like pkg is.. -- Sam Fourman Jr.